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DEAR HEALTH FREEDOM ADVOCATE,
BELOW IS THE LATEST NEWS LETTER FROM MERYL DOREY AT THE AUSTRALIAN
VACCINATION NETWORK (AVN). MERYL RECENTLY VISITED AND TALKED WITH POLITICIANS AT
GOVERNMENT HOUSE HERE IN NSW. THIS IS AN UPDATE OF WHAT SHE HAS ENCOUNTERED. WE NEED
TO WORK WITH THE AVN AND WE NEED TO SEND EMAILS TO THE VARIOUS POLITICIANS
MERYL WRITES ABOUT.... PLEASE READ THE WHOLE EMAIL, IT IS LONG BUT WE REALLY HAVE
TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
IF YOU ARE A STUDENT STUDYING HEALTH SCIENCES AT UNIVERSITY OR YOU ARE A
NURSE THEN THIS INFORMATION IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.
LOBBYING UPDATE:
I MEANT TO SEND YOU ALL THROUGH AN UPDATE AFTER MY LAST EMAIL WHICH COVERED
THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS IN SYDNEY BUT AS SOON AS I GOT BACK TO THE OFFICE, THE
MAGAZINE HAD TO BE MAILED OUT SO THERE JUST WAS NO TIME TO SIT DOWN AND GIVE
THIS THE ATTENTION IT NEEDS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A LONGER DOING THE
ROUNDS SO MAKE YOURSELF A CUP OF TEA (HERBAL, OF COURSE!) AND GET COMFORTABLE.
BUT PLEASE READ THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AS THE INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT
FOR ALL OF YOU!
<FONT COLOR="#000000" BACK="#FFFFFF" STYLE="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #FFFFFF" SIZE=3 PTSIZE=12 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="VERDANA"THURSDAY, 31 MAY 2007:
OUR FIRST MEETING WAS WITH FRED NILE WHO WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SURPRISE TO
ME! POLITICALLY, I AM A BIT LEFT OF CENTRE AND HIS CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATIC
PARTY, IS PRETTY FAR TO THE RIGHT. SO WHILST WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT AGREE ON MANY
ISSUES, ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THERE WAS A REAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MEASURE
WAS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AT LEAST NOT
WITHOUT SOME PRETTY STRONG RESISTANCE!
ON A PERSONAL NOTE, FRED TOLD US THAT HE HAS BEEN IN PARLIAMENT SINCE 1983 OR
1984 AND IN ALL THAT TIME, HE HAS NEVER MISSED A DAY IN THE CHAMBER WHEN A
VOTE WAS BEING HELD. THIS IS PRETTY AMAZING CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT I TWICE
WENT INTO THE CHAMBER WHEN I WAS THERE AND THERE WERE NEVER MORE THAN 4-5
MPS/MLCS THERE EITHER TIME! FRED TOLD US THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, PARLIAMENT TRIED TO
SNEAK THROUGH THEIR OWN PAY-RISE BY HOLDING THE VOTE AT 1:30 IN THE MORNING.
FRED GOT WIND OF IT AND MADE SURE HE WAS THERE AND STOPPED IT FROM GOING THROUGH
WHICH DID NOT MAKE HIM A VERY POPULAR FELLOW. BUT TO ME, THAT WAS AN
INDICATION OF THE SORT OF MAN FRED IS. SOMEONE WHO IS NOT AFRAID OF DOING SOMETHING
THAT OTHERS DONT LIKE IF HE THINKS ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
ANYWAY, FRED TOLD US THAT FROM MEMORY, THERE WAS A BILL COMING UP WHICH WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO TACK AN AMENDMENT ONTO. EVERY 5 YEARS, THE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION
ACT MUST BE DEBATED IN PARLIAMENT AND THE TIME FOR THAT DEBATE WAS SOON (I AM
HOPING IT HADNT ALREADY HAPPENED WAITING TO HEAR BACK) SO REV NILE WOULD
BE WILLING TO SEE ABOUT ADDING MEDICAL CHOICE TO THE WORDING OF THE BILL.
CURRENTLY, YOU CANT BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ON THE BASIS OF RACE, SEX, RELIGION
OR DISABILITY AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT AGAINST THE POLICY
REQUIRING VACCINATION FOR HOSPITAL WORKERS AND STUDENTS WAS BY CLAIMING THAT
THEY WERE DISABLED BECAUSE THEY COULD BE CARRYING DISEASES IN THEIR BODY SO NOT
LETTING THEM WORK OR GO TO SCHOOL WAS DISCRIMINATORY. THIS IS A PATH I DO NOT
WANT TO GO DOWN. TO MY MIND AND FROM ALMOST 18 YEARS OF RESEARCH IN THIS AREA,
THOSE WHO ARE UNVACCINATED ARE FAR HEALTHIER AND APART FROM THAT, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE MADE A CHOICE NOT JUST DONE AS THEY
WERE TOLD. THEREFORE, THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WORK IF THEIR OWN MEDICAL
RESEARCH HAS INDICATED THAT THEIR HEALTH WOULD BE BETTER-MAINTAINED IF THEY DONT
VACCINATE.
AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ACT WOULD BE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME WE COULD POSSIBLY
HAVE. IN ONE FELL SWOOP, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THIS
POLICY AND IN ADDITION, IT WILL GIVE THOSE IN THE MILITARY WHO ARE CURRENTLY
UNABLE TO CHOOSE NOT TO BE VACCINATED, A LEG TO STAND ON WHEN FIGHTING TO PROTECT
THEIR RIGHTS TO PROTECT OUR NATION WITHOUT PUTTING THEIR OWN HEALTH AT RISK.
THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER BENEFITS TO THIS AND I AM HOPEFUL WE WILL BE ABLE TO
AT LEAST GET THE ISSUE RAISED IN PARLIAMENT. AS REV NILE SAYS WE MAY NOT
HAVE A CHANCE OF GETTING THIS PASSED, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY RAISE THE PROFILE OF
THE ISSUE.
PLEASE WRITE TO REV NILE TO THANK HIM FOR HIS HELP AND TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO
WORK HARD FOR US TO PREVENT THIS GROSS INVASION OF OUR LIBERTY BY VESTED
INTERESTS AND THOSE WHO DONT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE. F.NILE%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">F.NILE
PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU
OUR NEXT MEETING WAS WITH NOREEN HAY, MEMBER FOR WOLLONGONG. I HAVE TO SAY
THAT THIS MEETING WAS A BIT OF A DISAPPOINTMENT! NOREEN WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF
LOTS OF THINGS AND WE DIDNT GET IN TO SEE HER UNTIL LATE AND SHE HAD VERY LITTLE
TIME. WE BASICALLY EXPLAINED OUR POSITION SHOOK HANDS AND LEFT. NOREEN IS THE
LABOR PARTY MEMBER FOR WOLLONGONG. THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS MEETING WAS
THATA SHE AGREED TO RAISE THIS ISSUE WITH REBA MEAGHER, THE MINISTER FOR
HEALTH. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HER YET SO A LETTER TO HER WOULD BE VERY GOOD.
HER EMAIL ADDRESS IS WOLLONGONG%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">WOLLONGONG
PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU
NEXT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING AND ONE THAT WILL REQUIRE LETTERS, LETTERS,
LETTERS! YOU CAN OF COURSE SEND THE SAME LETTER TO EVERYONE SO DONT PANIC!
WRITE ONE SEND MANY THE JOY OF EMAIL.
OUR MEETING WAS OSTENSIBLY WITH MICHAEL DALY, LABOR PARTY MEMBER FOR MAROUBRA
WHO WAS REALLY ONLY ACTING AS A CONDUIT TO THE MINISTER FOR HEALTH WHO COULDN
T MEET WITH US. SITTING IN ON THE MEETING WAS CLAIRE MCWILLIAM WHO IS
REBA MEAGHERS (THE MINISTER FOR HEALTHS) ADVISOR AND DR KERRY CHANT WHOSE
DETAILS I WILL PASTE HERE SO YOU CAN ALL SPREAD THEM AROUND TO ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN
AFFECTED BY OR CARES ABOUT THIS POLICY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER FLOODED WITH
EMAILS GUYS THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE!
DR KERRY CHANT
DIRECTOR HEALTH PROTECTION AND
DEPUTY CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER
NSW HEALTH DEPARTMENT
PHONE: (02) 9391 9288
FAX: (02) 9391 9682
EMAIL: KECHA%40DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU">KECHA
DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU
I WISH I HAD EITHER A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY OR A TAPE RECORDER FOR THIS MEETING
BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME BEAUTIES THAT CAME OUT OF IT! I SAID OUR MEETING
WAS OSTENSIBLY WITH MICHAEL DALY AND HE DID HAVE INPUT AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT
THE TWO LADIES FROM THE MINISTERS OFFICE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WERE REALLY
THE FOCUS.
WE STARTED OFF WITH OUR, BY NOW WELL-PRACTICED SPIEL, ABOUT RIGHTS, THE LIVE
VIRUS VACCINES PUTTING PATIENTS AT RISK, ANDREW AND ESTHER TALKING ABOUT
GETTING KICKED OUT OF NURSING SCHOOL AND ROGER DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT THERE IS
MORE THAN ONE PATH TO HEALTH.
CLAIRE MCWILLIAM SAID VERY LITTLE THOUGH MICHAEL DID INTERJECT WITH SEVERAL
QUESTIONS WHICH SHOWED QUITE CLEARLY THAT HE WAS TRULY PAYING ATTENTION. IT WAS
REALLY KERRY CHANT WHO WAS THE FOCUS OF THIS MEETING HOWEVER. SOME OF THE
COMMENTS SHE MADE WERE INTERESTING ESPECIALLY FROM SOMEONE IN HER POSITION AND
WITH HER ACCESS TO WHAT SHOULD BE CORRECT AND WELL-REFERENCED INFORMATION.
IN RESPONSE TO MY STATEMENT THAT PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE LIVE-VIRUS VACCINES
SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED AND THOSE UNDERGOING IMMUNOSUPPRESSIVE
THERAPIES FOR UP TO 90 DAYS BECAUSE THEY CAN BE INFECTIOUS FOR THAT PERIOD OF
TIME, KERRY STATED THAT THIS WAS NOT THE CASE. SHE SAID THAT I WAS MISREADING
WHAT THE MANUFACTURER SAYS AND THAT THE ACTUAL STATEMENT WAS THAT LIVE VIRUS
VACCINES WERE NOT TO BE GIVEN WITHIN ONE MONTH OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE BODYS
ABILITY TO MAKE ANTIBODIES AGAINST THE DISEASES COULD BE LESS IF THEY WERE
ADMINISTERED MORE CLOSELY THAN THAT.
WELL! HANG ME FOR AN IGNORANT AND ILL-INFORMED FEAR MONGERER! I QUOTE FROM
THE CURRENT EDITION OF MIMS THE ACCEPTED SOURCE FOR INFORMATION ON ALL
CURRENTLY LICENSED DRUGS AND VACCINES IN AUSTRALIA:
(FROM THE PACKAGE INSERT FOR THE VARICELLA OR CHICKEN POX VACCINE VARILIX)
TRANSMISSION OF THE OKA VIRUS TO SERONEGATIVE CONTACTS OF A VACCINEE HAS
BEEN SHOWN TO OCCUR AT AN EXTREMELY LOW RATE. THE MILD NATURE OF THE RASH WHICH
DEVELOPED IN THE HEALTHY CONTACTS INDICATES THAT THE VIRUS REMAINS ATTENUATED
AFTER PASSAGE THROUGH HUMAN HOSTS. VACCINE RECIPIENTS SHOULD ATTEMPT TO AVOID
CONTACT WITH SUSCEPTIBLE HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS FOR UP TO SIX WEEKS, WHERE
POSSIBLE.
THE INFORMATION IS SIMILAR FOR THE MMR (MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA) AND ORAL
POLIO VACCINES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHERE DOES SHE GET HER
INFORMATION FROM?
KERRY ALSO SAID THAT NOBODY WOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS AS A RESULT OF THIS POLICY
BUT SHE HAD NO ANSWER WHEN CONFRONTED WITH ANDREW AND ESTHERS STORIES OF
NURSES WHO HAVE BASICALLY BE TOLD THAT IF THEY DONT VACCINATE, THERE WILL BE NO
PLACE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR THEM. IF YOU ARE A NURSE WHO IS IN THIS POSITION,
PLEASE WRITE TO HER TO LET HER KNOW.
AFTER BEING TOLD HOW WRONG HER INFORMATION WAS WHEN IT CAME TO THE SAFETY OF
NURSES JOBS, SHE SAID THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING WITH SUE CAMPBELL-LLOYD, A
WOMAN WHOSE DETAILS I PUT INTO AN EARLIER EDITION OF DOING THE ROUNDS AND
SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER RETURNED ANY OF MY PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS. IF ANY OF YOU WROTE
TO HER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF SHE REPLIED.
WHEN I TOLD KERRY OF SUES UNRESPONSIVENESS, SHE WAS VERY SURPRISED AND JUST
TOLD ME THAT WE SHOULD TRY AGAIN SO HERE IS HER EMAIL ADDRESS. PLEASE SEND
COPIES OF ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO HER SCAMP%40DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU">SCAMP
DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU
THE ONE GOOD THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS MEETING WAS A COMMITMENT BY KERRY
CHANT THAT SHE WOULD WORK WITH ALL STUDENTS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS TO ENSURE
THAT THEY COULD COMPLETE THEIR PRACTICAL WORK AND GO ON TO FINISH THEIR
EDUCATION. WE ARE YET TO SEE EVIDENCE OF THIS SINCE BOTH ANDREW AND ESTHER HAVE
WRITTEN TO HER WITHOUT A RESPONSE.
IF YOU ARE A STUDENT WHO CANT GET INTO PRACTICUM OR KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO IS
IN THIS SITUATION, PLEASE BE SURE THAT THEY WRITE TO BOTH KERRY AND SUE AND
SEND COPIES OF THAT LETTER TO ME AT MERYL%40AVN.ORG.AU">MERYL
AVN.ORG.AU.
MICHAEL DALEY CAN BE CONTACTED AT HIS NSW PARLIAMENT EMAIL ADDRESS -
MAROUBRA%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">MAROUBRA
PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU
NEXT WAS IAN COHEN OF THE NSW GREENS. IAN LIVES LOCALLY HERE NEAR BYRON BAY
AND IS VERY WELL-KNOWN FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND TO RIGHTS
ISSUES. HE IS AN ADVOCATE OF NATURAL HEALTH HIMSELF AND THOUGH HE DID NOT HAVE A
POSITION ON THE SUBJECT OF VACCINATION PER SE, HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS
WOULD BE MADE COMPULSORY. HE HAS PROMISED TO ASK QUESTIONS ON NOTICE AND SHOULD
DEFINITELY GET A LETTER FROM YOU AT
IAN.COHEN%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">IAN.COHEN
PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU
LATER WAS A MEETING WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A FIZZLE BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE
EXCELLENT (THOUGH I DIDNT KNOW IT AT THE TIME). CLOVER MOORE MUST BE A DYNAMO
THOUGH WE DIDNT GET TO MEET HER. INSTEAD, WE GOT TO MEET WITH HER ASSISTANT,
TAMMY, WHO TOOK VOLUMES OF NOTES WHILE WE SPOKE, ASKED US A FEW QUESTIONS AND
THANKED US FOR COMING TO SEE HER. CLOVER MOORE IS NOT ONLY THE LORD MAYOR OR
SYDNEY, SHE IS ALSO AN INDEPENDENT MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT HOW SHE DOES BOTH JOBS
IS BEYOND ME BUT LOOKING BACK, I AM SO HAPPY WE WERE ABLE TO REACH HER VIA
TAMMY.
TODAY, I GOT A COPY OF A LETTER THAT CLOVER MOORE WROTE TO REBA MEAGHER ON
OUR BEHALF AND IT SHOWS THAT NOT ONLY IS SHE INTERESTED IN THIS ISSUE, BUT TAMMY
ACTUALLY HEARD AND TOOK IN EVERY WORD WE SAID!
HERE IS THAT LETTER:
DEAR MINISTER,
I WRITE ON BEHALF OF MEMBERS OF THE AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK, THE
NATURAL HEALTH CARE ALLIANCE, THE NATURAL HEALTH SOCIETY AND THE AUSTRALIAN
HOMOEOPATHIC ASSOCIATION, WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE RECENT DECISION TO
INTRODUCE MANDATORY VACCINATION FOR HEALTH SERVICES STUDENTS AND STAFF.
MEMBERS TELL ME THAT THE NSW GOVERNMENT INTRODUCED A NEW POLICY IN FEBRUARY
THAT REQUIRES STUDENTS OF HEALTH PROFESSIONS AND HOSPITAL STAFF TO BE
VACCINATED AGAINST TEN DISEASES. THEY INFORM ME THAT STUDENTS REFUSING TO BE VACCINATED
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE PRACTICAL COMPONENT OF THEIR COURSE AND CANNOT
FINISH THEIR COURSE, AND THAT HOSPITAL STAFF REFUSING TO BE VACCINATED WILL LOSE
THEIR JOBS. THEY SAY THAT THE POLICY WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON NURSING AND ALLIED
HEALTH STAFFING SHORTAGES.
MEMBERS OF THESE BODIES TELL ME THAT THEY ARE OPPOSED TO COMPULSORY