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Vaccination update -- Mandatory Vaccination, its here, its real!
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2007-06-15 13:41:06

FORWARDING
MANDATORY VACCINATION, ITS HERE, ITS REAL!

READ MORE ....
HTTP://WWW.AVN.ORG.AU/NEWS/81A186E2-1B40-420A-A9EF-9C2A6BE1D83B.HTML

SIGH THE PETITION ....
HTTP://WWW.PETITIONONLINE.COM/AVNIVM/PETITION.HTML

DEAR HEALTH FREEDOM ADVOCATE,


BELOW IS THE LATEST NEWS LETTER FROM MERYL DOREY AT THE AUSTRALIAN
VACCINATION NETWORK (AVN). MERYL RECENTLY VISITED AND TALKED WITH POLITICIANS AT
GOVERNMENT HOUSE HERE IN NSW. THIS IS AN UPDATE OF WHAT SHE HAS ENCOUNTERED. WE NEED
TO WORK WITH THE AVN AND WE NEED TO SEND EMAILS TO THE VARIOUS POLITICIANS
MERYL WRITES ABOUT.... PLEASE READ THE WHOLE EMAIL, IT IS LONG BUT WE REALLY HAVE
TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION.

IF YOU ARE A STUDENT STUDYING HEALTH SCIENCES AT UNIVERSITY OR YOU ARE A
NURSE THEN THIS INFORMATION IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

LOBBYING UPDATE:

I MEANT TO SEND YOU ALL THROUGH AN UPDATE AFTER MY LAST EMAIL WHICH COVERED
THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS IN SYDNEY BUT AS SOON AS I GOT BACK TO THE OFFICE, THE
MAGAZINE HAD TO BE MAILED OUT SO THERE JUST WAS NO TIME TO SIT DOWN AND GIVE
THIS THE ATTENTION IT NEEDS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A LONGER DOING THE
ROUNDS SO MAKE YOURSELF A CUP OF TEA (HERBAL, OF COURSE!) AND GET COMFORTABLE.
BUT PLEASE READ THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH AS THE INFORMATION IS VERY IMPORTANT
FOR ALL OF YOU!

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OUR FIRST MEETING WAS WITH FRED NILE WHO WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SURPRISE TO
ME! POLITICALLY, I AM A BIT LEFT OF CENTRE AND HIS CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATIC
PARTY, IS PRETTY FAR TO THE RIGHT. SO WHILST WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT AGREE ON MANY
ISSUES, ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THERE WAS A REAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MEASURE
WAS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AT LEAST NOT
WITHOUT SOME PRETTY STRONG RESISTANCE!

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, FRED TOLD US THAT HE HAS BEEN IN PARLIAMENT SINCE 1983 OR
1984 AND IN ALL THAT TIME, HE HAS NEVER MISSED A DAY IN THE CHAMBER WHEN A
VOTE WAS BEING HELD. THIS IS PRETTY AMAZING CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT I TWICE
WENT INTO THE CHAMBER WHEN I WAS THERE AND THERE WERE NEVER MORE THAN 4-5
MPS/MLCS THERE EITHER TIME! FRED TOLD US THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, PARLIAMENT TRIED TO
SNEAK THROUGH THEIR OWN PAY-RISE BY HOLDING THE VOTE AT 1:30 IN THE MORNING.
FRED GOT WIND OF IT AND MADE SURE HE WAS THERE AND STOPPED IT FROM GOING THROUGH
WHICH DID NOT MAKE HIM A VERY POPULAR FELLOW. BUT TO ME, THAT WAS AN
INDICATION OF THE SORT OF MAN FRED IS. SOMEONE WHO IS NOT AFRAID OF DOING SOMETHING
THAT OTHERS DONT LIKE IF HE THINKS ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

ANYWAY, FRED TOLD US THAT FROM MEMORY, THERE WAS A BILL COMING UP WHICH WE
MIGHT BE ABLE TO TACK AN AMENDMENT ONTO. EVERY 5 YEARS, THE ANTI-DISCRIMINATION
ACT MUST BE DEBATED IN PARLIAMENT AND THE TIME FOR THAT DEBATE WAS SOON (I AM
HOPING IT HADNT ALREADY HAPPENED WAITING TO HEAR BACK) SO REV NILE WOULD
BE WILLING TO SEE ABOUT ADDING MEDICAL CHOICE TO THE WORDING OF THE BILL.
CURRENTLY, YOU CANT BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ON THE BASIS OF RACE, SEX, RELIGION
OR DISABILITY AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT AGAINST THE POLICY
REQUIRING VACCINATION FOR HOSPITAL WORKERS AND STUDENTS WAS BY CLAIMING THAT
THEY WERE DISABLED BECAUSE THEY COULD BE CARRYING DISEASES IN THEIR BODY SO NOT
LETTING THEM WORK OR GO TO SCHOOL WAS DISCRIMINATORY. THIS IS A PATH I DO NOT
WANT TO GO DOWN. TO MY MIND AND FROM ALMOST 18 YEARS OF RESEARCH IN THIS AREA,
THOSE WHO ARE UNVACCINATED ARE FAR HEALTHIER AND APART FROM THAT, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE MADE A CHOICE NOT JUST DONE AS THEY
WERE TOLD. THEREFORE, THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WORK IF THEIR OWN MEDICAL
RESEARCH HAS INDICATED THAT THEIR HEALTH WOULD BE BETTER-MAINTAINED IF THEY DONT
VACCINATE.

AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ACT WOULD BE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME WE COULD POSSIBLY
HAVE. IN ONE FELL SWOOP, IT WILL TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THIS
POLICY AND IN ADDITION, IT WILL GIVE THOSE IN THE MILITARY WHO ARE CURRENTLY
UNABLE TO CHOOSE NOT TO BE VACCINATED, A LEG TO STAND ON WHEN FIGHTING TO PROTECT
THEIR RIGHTS TO PROTECT OUR NATION WITHOUT PUTTING THEIR OWN HEALTH AT RISK.

THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER BENEFITS TO THIS AND I AM HOPEFUL WE WILL BE ABLE TO
AT LEAST GET THE ISSUE RAISED IN PARLIAMENT. AS REV NILE SAYS WE MAY NOT
HAVE A CHANCE OF GETTING THIS PASSED, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY RAISE THE PROFILE OF
THE ISSUE.

PLEASE WRITE TO REV NILE TO THANK HIM FOR HIS HELP AND TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO
WORK HARD FOR US TO PREVENT THIS GROSS INVASION OF OUR LIBERTY BY VESTED
INTERESTS AND THOSE WHO DONT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THIS
ISSUE. F.NILE%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">F.NILEPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

OUR NEXT MEETING WAS WITH NOREEN HAY, MEMBER FOR WOLLONGONG. I HAVE TO SAY
THAT THIS MEETING WAS A BIT OF A DISAPPOINTMENT! NOREEN WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF
LOTS OF THINGS AND WE DIDNT GET IN TO SEE HER UNTIL LATE AND SHE HAD VERY LITTLE
TIME. WE BASICALLY EXPLAINED OUR POSITION SHOOK HANDS AND LEFT. NOREEN IS THE
LABOR PARTY MEMBER FOR WOLLONGONG. THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS MEETING WAS
THATA SHE AGREED TO RAISE THIS ISSUE WITH REBA MEAGHER, THE MINISTER FOR
HEALTH. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HER YET SO A LETTER TO HER WOULD BE VERY GOOD.
HER EMAIL ADDRESS IS WOLLONGONG%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">WOLLONGONGPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

NEXT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING AND ONE THAT WILL REQUIRE LETTERS, LETTERS,
LETTERS! YOU CAN OF COURSE SEND THE SAME LETTER TO EVERYONE SO DONT PANIC!
WRITE ONE SEND MANY THE JOY OF EMAIL.

OUR MEETING WAS OSTENSIBLY WITH MICHAEL DALY, LABOR PARTY MEMBER FOR MAROUBRA
WHO WAS REALLY ONLY ACTING AS A CONDUIT TO THE MINISTER FOR HEALTH WHO COULDN
T MEET WITH US. SITTING IN ON THE MEETING WAS CLAIRE MCWILLIAM WHO IS
REBA MEAGHERS (THE MINISTER FOR HEALTHS) ADVISOR AND DR KERRY CHANT WHOSE
DETAILS I WILL PASTE HERE SO YOU CAN ALL SPREAD THEM AROUND TO ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN
AFFECTED BY OR CARES ABOUT THIS POLICY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER FLOODED WITH
EMAILS GUYS THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE!

DR KERRY CHANT
DIRECTOR HEALTH PROTECTION AND
DEPUTY CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER
NSW HEALTH DEPARTMENT
PHONE: (02) 9391 9288
FAX: (02) 9391 9682
EMAIL: KECHA%40DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU">KECHADOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU

I WISH I HAD EITHER A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY OR A TAPE RECORDER FOR THIS MEETING
BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME BEAUTIES THAT CAME OUT OF IT! I SAID OUR MEETING
WAS OSTENSIBLY WITH MICHAEL DALY AND HE DID HAVE INPUT AND ASK QUESTIONS, BUT
THE TWO LADIES FROM THE MINISTERS OFFICE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WERE REALLY
THE FOCUS.

WE STARTED OFF WITH OUR, BY NOW WELL-PRACTICED SPIEL, ABOUT RIGHTS, THE LIVE
VIRUS VACCINES PUTTING PATIENTS AT RISK, ANDREW AND ESTHER TALKING ABOUT
GETTING KICKED OUT OF NURSING SCHOOL AND ROGER DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT THERE IS
MORE THAN ONE PATH TO HEALTH.

CLAIRE MCWILLIAM SAID VERY LITTLE THOUGH MICHAEL DID INTERJECT WITH SEVERAL
QUESTIONS WHICH SHOWED QUITE CLEARLY THAT HE WAS TRULY PAYING ATTENTION. IT WAS
REALLY KERRY CHANT WHO WAS THE FOCUS OF THIS MEETING HOWEVER. SOME OF THE
COMMENTS SHE MADE WERE INTERESTING ESPECIALLY FROM SOMEONE IN HER POSITION AND
WITH HER ACCESS TO WHAT SHOULD BE CORRECT AND WELL-REFERENCED INFORMATION.

IN RESPONSE TO MY STATEMENT THAT PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE LIVE-VIRUS VACCINES
SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED AND THOSE UNDERGOING IMMUNOSUPPRESSIVE
THERAPIES FOR UP TO 90 DAYS BECAUSE THEY CAN BE INFECTIOUS FOR THAT PERIOD OF
TIME, KERRY STATED THAT THIS WAS NOT THE CASE. SHE SAID THAT I WAS MISREADING
WHAT THE MANUFACTURER SAYS AND THAT THE ACTUAL STATEMENT WAS THAT LIVE VIRUS
VACCINES WERE NOT TO BE GIVEN WITHIN ONE MONTH OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE BODYS
ABILITY TO MAKE ANTIBODIES AGAINST THE DISEASES COULD BE LESS IF THEY WERE
ADMINISTERED MORE CLOSELY THAN THAT.

WELL! HANG ME FOR AN IGNORANT AND ILL-INFORMED FEAR MONGERER! I QUOTE FROM
THE CURRENT EDITION OF MIMS THE ACCEPTED SOURCE FOR INFORMATION ON ALL
CURRENTLY LICENSED DRUGS AND VACCINES IN AUSTRALIA:

(FROM THE PACKAGE INSERT FOR THE VARICELLA OR CHICKEN POX VACCINE VARILIX)
TRANSMISSION OF THE OKA VIRUS TO SERONEGATIVE CONTACTS OF A VACCINEE HAS
BEEN SHOWN TO OCCUR AT AN EXTREMELY LOW RATE. THE MILD NATURE OF THE RASH WHICH
DEVELOPED IN THE HEALTHY CONTACTS INDICATES THAT THE VIRUS REMAINS ATTENUATED
AFTER PASSAGE THROUGH HUMAN HOSTS. VACCINE RECIPIENTS SHOULD ATTEMPT TO AVOID
CONTACT WITH SUSCEPTIBLE HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS FOR UP TO SIX WEEKS, WHERE
POSSIBLE.

THE INFORMATION IS SIMILAR FOR THE MMR (MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA) AND ORAL
POLIO VACCINES. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHERE DOES SHE GET HER
INFORMATION FROM?

KERRY ALSO SAID THAT NOBODY WOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS AS A RESULT OF THIS POLICY
BUT SHE HAD NO ANSWER WHEN CONFRONTED WITH ANDREW AND ESTHERS STORIES OF
NURSES WHO HAVE BASICALLY BE TOLD THAT IF THEY DONT VACCINATE, THERE WILL BE NO
PLACE IN THE HOSPITAL FOR THEM. IF YOU ARE A NURSE WHO IS IN THIS POSITION,
PLEASE WRITE TO HER TO LET HER KNOW.

AFTER BEING TOLD HOW WRONG HER INFORMATION WAS WHEN IT CAME TO THE SAFETY OF
NURSES JOBS, SHE SAID THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING WITH SUE CAMPBELL-LLOYD, A
WOMAN WHOSE DETAILS I PUT INTO AN EARLIER EDITION OF DOING THE ROUNDS AND
SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER RETURNED ANY OF MY PHONE CALLS OR EMAILS. IF ANY OF YOU WROTE
TO HER, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF SHE REPLIED.

WHEN I TOLD KERRY OF SUES UNRESPONSIVENESS, SHE WAS VERY SURPRISED AND JUST
TOLD ME THAT WE SHOULD TRY AGAIN SO HERE IS HER EMAIL ADDRESS. PLEASE SEND
COPIES OF ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO HER SCAMP%40DOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU">SCAMPDOH.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU

THE ONE GOOD THING THAT CAME OUT OF THIS MEETING WAS A COMMITMENT BY KERRY
CHANT THAT SHE WOULD WORK WITH ALL STUDENTS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS TO ENSURE
THAT THEY COULD COMPLETE THEIR PRACTICAL WORK AND GO ON TO FINISH THEIR
EDUCATION. WE ARE YET TO SEE EVIDENCE OF THIS SINCE BOTH ANDREW AND ESTHER HAVE
WRITTEN TO HER WITHOUT A RESPONSE.

IF YOU ARE A STUDENT WHO CANT GET INTO PRACTICUM OR KNOW OF SOMEONE WHO IS
IN THIS SITUATION, PLEASE BE SURE THAT THEY WRITE TO BOTH KERRY AND SUE AND
SEND COPIES OF THAT LETTER TO ME AT MERYL%40AVN.ORG.AU">MERYLAVN.ORG.AU.

MICHAEL DALEY CAN BE CONTACTED AT HIS NSW PARLIAMENT EMAIL ADDRESS -
MAROUBRA%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">MAROUBRAPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

NEXT WAS IAN COHEN OF THE NSW GREENS. IAN LIVES LOCALLY HERE NEAR BYRON BAY
AND IS VERY WELL-KNOWN FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND TO RIGHTS
ISSUES. HE IS AN ADVOCATE OF NATURAL HEALTH HIMSELF AND THOUGH HE DID NOT HAVE A
POSITION ON THE SUBJECT OF VACCINATION PER SE, HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS
WOULD BE MADE COMPULSORY. HE HAS PROMISED TO ASK QUESTIONS ON NOTICE AND SHOULD
DEFINITELY GET A LETTER FROM YOU AT
IAN.COHEN%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">IAN.COHENPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

LATER WAS A MEETING WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A FIZZLE BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE
EXCELLENT (THOUGH I DIDNT KNOW IT AT THE TIME). CLOVER MOORE MUST BE A DYNAMO
THOUGH WE DIDNT GET TO MEET HER. INSTEAD, WE GOT TO MEET WITH HER ASSISTANT,
TAMMY, WHO TOOK VOLUMES OF NOTES WHILE WE SPOKE, ASKED US A FEW QUESTIONS AND
THANKED US FOR COMING TO SEE HER. CLOVER MOORE IS NOT ONLY THE LORD MAYOR OR
SYDNEY, SHE IS ALSO AN INDEPENDENT MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT HOW SHE DOES BOTH JOBS
IS BEYOND ME BUT LOOKING BACK, I AM SO HAPPY WE WERE ABLE TO REACH HER VIA
TAMMY.

TODAY, I GOT A COPY OF A LETTER THAT CLOVER MOORE WROTE TO REBA MEAGHER ON
OUR BEHALF AND IT SHOWS THAT NOT ONLY IS SHE INTERESTED IN THIS ISSUE, BUT TAMMY
ACTUALLY HEARD AND TOOK IN EVERY WORD WE SAID!

HERE IS THAT LETTER:

DEAR MINISTER,

I WRITE ON BEHALF OF MEMBERS OF THE AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK, THE
NATURAL HEALTH CARE ALLIANCE, THE NATURAL HEALTH SOCIETY AND THE AUSTRALIAN
HOMOEOPATHIC ASSOCIATION, WHO HAVE CONTACTED ME ABOUT THE RECENT DECISION TO
INTRODUCE MANDATORY VACCINATION FOR HEALTH SERVICES STUDENTS AND STAFF.

MEMBERS TELL ME THAT THE NSW GOVERNMENT INTRODUCED A NEW POLICY IN FEBRUARY
THAT REQUIRES STUDENTS OF HEALTH PROFESSIONS AND HOSPITAL STAFF TO BE
VACCINATED AGAINST TEN DISEASES. THEY INFORM ME THAT STUDENTS REFUSING TO BE VACCINATED
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE PRACTICAL COMPONENT OF THEIR COURSE AND CANNOT
FINISH THEIR COURSE, AND THAT HOSPITAL STAFF REFUSING TO BE VACCINATED WILL LOSE
THEIR JOBS. THEY SAY THAT THE POLICY WILL HAVE AN EFFECT ON NURSING AND ALLIED
HEALTH STAFFING SHORTAGES.

MEMBERS OF THESE BODIES TELL ME THAT THEY ARE OPPOSED TO COMPULSORY
VACCINATION, NOT VACCINATION ITSELF. THEY SAY THAT VACCINATION IS A MEDICAL PROCEDURE
THAT INVOLVES RISKS AND THAT THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY SOME PEOPLE WOULD
CHOOSE NOT TO BE VACCINATED.

ACCORDING TO THOSE MEMBERS WHO CONTACTED ME, THE STATED AIM OF THE POLICY IS
TO PROTECT PATIENTS, YET THE POLICY DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT STAFF AND STUDENTS
RECENTLY VACCINATED WITH LIVE VIRUSES SUCH AS MEASLES, MUMPS AND RUBELLA, ARE
KEPT AWAY FROM IMMUNE-COMPROMISED PATIENTS. THEY ALSO STATE THAT THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE OF PATIENTS CONTRACTING DISEASES ON THE LIST FROM STUDENTS OR HOSPITAL
STAFF.

MEMBERS OF THE GROUPS ALSO INFORM ME THAT THEY POLICY WAS INTRODUCED IN NSW
WITHOUT ADEQUATE CONSULTATION. THEY SAY THAT WHILE THE NURSES ASSOCIATION WAS
INVOLVED IN DRAFTING THE POLICY, THEY DID NOT CONTACT MEMBERS, AND THAT
HOSPITAL STAFF AND HEALTH PROFESSION STUDENTS WERE NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
SUBMISSIONS.

I SHARE CONCERN THAT POLICY CHANGES SHOULD INVOLVE PUBLIC CONSULTATION AND
THAT MANDATORY MEASURES REQUIRE A CAUTIONARY APPROACH.

COULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE MANDATORY VACCINATION POLICY AND CONSIDER THE
CONCERNS RAISED BY THE AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK, THE NATURAL HEALTH CARE
ASSOCIATION AND THE AUSTRALIAN HOMOEOPATHIC ASSOCIATION?

COULD YOU PLEASE INFORM ME WHAT ACTION YOU HAVE TAKEN?

YOURS SINCERELY,

CLOVER MOORE,
MEMBER FOR SYDNEY

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT LETTER AND DESERVES OUR THANKS!
PLEASE WRITE TO SYDNEY%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">SYDNEYPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU TO LET CLOVER AND TAMMY KNOW
THAT YOU APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS!

OUR LAST MEETING FOR THE DAY WAS WITH MARIE ANDREWS, LABOR MEMBER FOR
GOSFORD. MARIE WAS A LOVELY LADY AND VERY NICE TO CHAT WITH. WE HAD A NICE TALK AND
SHE PROMISED TO RAISE OUR CONCERNS WITH REBA MEAGHER.

HERE IS THE LETTER I RECEIVED FROM HER TODAY:

DEAR MERYL,

I REFER TO OUR RECENT MEETING IN PARLIAMENT HOUSE DURING WHICH WE DISCUSSED
THE CONCERNS WHICH THE AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK HAD ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTHS POLICY RELATING TO VACCINATION.

I AM NOW ADVISED BY MINISTER MEAGHERS OFFICE THAT THE IEMMA GOVERNMENT
SUPPORTS IMMUNISATION AND STRONGLY ENCOURAGES ALL PARENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS
LIFE SAVING MEDICAL SERVICE. THE GOVERNMENT DOES, HOWEVER, RECOGNISE THAT
IMMUNISATION IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL CHOICE.

YOUR ORGANISATION CAN BE REASSURED THAT THE NSW GOVERNMENT HAS NO INTENTION
OF INTRODUCING COMPULSORY VACCINATION FOR THE HPV OR ANY OTHER DISEASE.

THE NSW GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING FREE VACCINES TO PUBLIC
HEALTHCARE WORKERS THROUGHOUT NSW. I AM ADVISED BY THE MINISTERS OFFICE THAT THE
MAJOR HEALTH REPRESENTATIVE BODIES WERE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS POLICY
INCLUDING:

THE NSW NURSES ASSOCIATION;
THE AUSTRALIAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, NSW;
THE AUSTRALIAN SALARIED MEDICAL OFFICERS FEDERATION NSW;
THE HEALTH SERVICES UNION; AND
THE ROYAL AUSTRALASIAN COLLEGE OF SURGEONS.

THE POLICY IS BASED ON WELL ESTABLISHED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON THE PUBLIC
HEALTH BENEFITS OF VACCINATION AND IS NOT COMPULSORY.

I AM ADVISED THAT NSW HEALTH EMPLOYEES WHO CHOOSE NOT TO CONSENT TO
IMMUNISATION OR SCREENING FOR TUBERCULOSIS MAY BE TRANSFERRED TO WORK IN LOWER RISK
CLINICAL AREAS.

NSW HEALTH RECOGNISES THAT THIS POLICY MAY CREATE DIFFICULTIES FOR STUDENT
NURSES WHO CANNOT COMPLETE ALL THE NECESSARY PLACEMENTS WITHOUT IMMUNISATION AND
HAS AGREED TO WORK WITH STUDENTS AND UNIVERSITIES TO DEVELOP AN ALTERNATIVE
APPROACH.

NSW HEALTHS PRIMARY CONCERN IS ENSURING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF PATIENTS
PARTICULARLY NEWBORN BABIES AND OTHER VERY VULNERABLE PATIENTS AND THE
HEALTH SERVICES WORKFORCE.

IT WAS PLEASANT MEETING WITH YOU AND I TRUST THE ABOVE INFORMATION WILL HELP
TO CLARIFY THE ISSUES RAISED WITH ME.

YOURS SINCERELY,

MARIE ANDREWS MP
MEMBER FOR GOSFORD

<;SIGH> WHERE DO WE BEGIN?????
FIRST OF ALL, WHILST IT IS LOVELY TO KNOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT ISNT
CONTEMPLATING MAKING HPV OR ANY OTHER VACCINATION COMPULSORY WHAT PART OF
COMPLIANCE WITH THIS POLICY IS MANDATORY DOESNT MS ANDREWS UNDERSTAND? MANDATORY AND
COMPULSORY ARE THE SAME THING AND THIS POLICY IS MANDATORY SO THEREFORE,
COMPULSORY.

AND WHILST IT IS SO GOOD THAT ALL OF THOSE BIG NAMES WERE INVOLVED IN THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS POLICY, WHERE WERE THE STAKEHOLDERS WHEN ALL OF THIS
CONSULTATION WAS GOING ON? DID ANY OF THOSE REPRESENTATIVE BODIES BOTHER TO POLL THEIR
MEMBERS (THE WORD MEMBER MEANS THAT THESE PEOPLE PAY THE BILLS FOR THE BIG
WIGS IN THESE GROUPS, DONT FORGET!) TO ASK FOR THEIR INPUT BEFORE RUBBER
STAMPING THE WORD APPROVED ON THE PAPER? I THINK NOT!

LASTLY, THE IDEA OF TRANSFERRING PEOPLE TO LOWER-RISK AREAS IS LAUGHABLE! THE
ONLY LOW RISK AREA WHERE THEY WILL NOT BE IN CONTACT WITH VULNERABLE PATIENTS
WOULD BE MENTAL HEALTH AND HOW MANY NURSES DO WE REALLY NEED IN MENTAL HEALTH
AND WITH THE CHRONIC SHORTAGE OF NURSES WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE IN THIS
COUNTRY, CAN WE REALLY AFFORD TO HAVE CARING, TALENTED AND EXPERIENCED STAFF UNABLE
TO WORK WITH PATIENTS?

PLEASE WRITE TO MARIE, THANKING HER FOR HER TIME AND SETTING HER STRAIGHT
ABOUT THIS POLICY. IF YOU NEED SOME INFORMATION, PLEASE LOOK AT THE FACSIMILE
LETTER ON PAGE 9 OF THIS QUARTERS ISSUE (VOLUME 5, NUMBER 1) OF INFORMED VOICE.
IF YOU ARE NOT A SUBSCRIBER SIGN UP NOW ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU WILL GET THIS
INFORMATION POSTED OUT TO YOU BECAUSE BABY, WE NEED YOUR HELP JUST AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED OURS!
MARIES EMAIL ADDRESS IS MARIE.ANDREWS%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">MARIE.ANDREWSPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

FRIDAY, 1 JUNE 2007:

OUR FIRST MEETING WAS WITH JILLIAN SKINNER, THE SHADOW MINISTER FOR HEALTH. I
HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH HER! SHE EXUDED POWER,
INTELLIGENCE AND ENERGY AND CONSIDERING THAT SHE HAD TO BE AT LEAST 15 YEARS OLDER
THAN ME, I WAS JUST LEFT FEELING THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WOW FACTOR GOING ON
THERE!

JILLIAN SAID THAT SHE WAS AWARE OF THIS POLICY THE ONLY PERSON WE SPOKE
WITH WHO HAD ACTUALLY HEARD ABOUT IT BEFORE (OTHER THAN THE REPRESENTATIVES OF
THE NSW DEPT OF HEALTH, THAT IS). SHE SAID SHE HAD READ ABOUT IT IN THE MEDIA
ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND WAS NOT SURPRISED THAT THE LABOR GOVERNMENT WAS DOING
SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT THEN AGAIN, SHE IS THE SHADOW HEALTH MINISTER, RIGHT? SHE
DID NOT APPROVE OF COMPULSORY HEALTH MEASURES AND TOLD US THAT QUITE PLAINLY,
THOUGH IN NO WAY WAS SHE ANTI-VACCINE.

IT WAS INCREDIBLY FORTUITOUS THAT WE MET WITH HER WHEN SHE DID HOWEVER
BECAUSE SHE WAS LEAVING PARLIAMENT THAT AFTERNOON TO ATTEND A MEETING WITH EVERY
STATE AND TERRITORYS HEALTH AND SHADOW HEALTH MINISTER AND SHE ASSURED US THAT
SHE WOULD BE RAISING THIS ISSUE AT THAT MEETING.

I HAVE TRIED TO FOLLOW UP WITH HER BUT HAVENT YET BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH
SO YOUR EMAILS WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. HER EMAIL ADDRESS IS
NORTHSHORE%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">NORTHSHOREPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

THE NEXT AND SECOND LAST MEETING WAS WITH GERARD MARTIN AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY
AMAZED THAT WE GOT IN TO SEE HIM BECAUSE HE IS THE GOVERNMENT WHIP WHICH IS A
VERY POWERFUL POSITION! IN FACT, HE IS THE ONLY LABOR FRONT BENCHER WE WERE
ABLE TO MEET WITH AND HE GAVE US A VERY GOOD HEARING. HE ASKED LOTS OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT WHY THIS POLICY CAME IN IN THE FIRST PLACE AND WHEN WE TOLD HIM THAT WE
DIDNT KNOW BUT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OURSELVES, HE
SAID THAT HE WOULD MAKE INQUIRIES ON OUR BEHALF.

WE WERE WITH HIM FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE AREA OF 20 MINUTES AND I WAS VERY
GRATEFUL THAT HE GAVE US SUCH A GOOD BLOCK OF TIME.

I HAVE NOT YET HEARD BACK FROM HIS OFFICE EITHER SO AN EMAIL TO HIM ASKING
WHAT THE RESULT OF HIS INQUIRIES ARE WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
YOU CAN EMAIL HIM AT GERARD.MARTIN%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">GERARD.MARTINPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

LAST MEETING (BET YOU THOUGHT ID NEVER FINISH, EH?) WAS WITH LEE RHANNON WHO
IS THE HEALTH SPOKESPERSON FOR THE NSW GREENS. LEE HAS TO DEAL WITH SOME VERY
STRONG OPINIONS WITHIN HER OWN PARTY AND THERE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
DISCUSSION AMONGST THE GREENS MLCS SINCE OUR INITIAL CROSS-BENCH MEETING ON THE
TUESDAY (PLEASE REFER TO MY LAST CORRESPONDENCE FOR A REPORT ON THE FIRST TWO
DAYS OF LOBBYING AT PARLIAMENT). LEE SEEMED TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE
WERE ASKING FOR PERSONALLY, BUT I THINK A LETTER FROM YOU WILL HELP TO REMIND
HER THAT SHE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE. HER DAUGHTER HAD GIVEN
BIRTH THE DAY BEFORE OUR MEETING SO VACCINATION HAS GOT TO BE AN ISSUE THAT IS
COMING UP IN HER OWN LIFE. DOES SHE WANT TO SEE COMPULSORY VACCINATION COME INTO
AUSTRALIA? DOES SHE WANT PEOPLE TO BE FORCED TO DECIDE BETWEEN THEIR JOB AND
THEIR HEALTH? IS THIS THE SORT OF NATION SHE WANTS HER OWN GRANDCHILD TO GROW
UP IN? SOMEHOW, I DONT THINK SO.

LEE CAN BE EMAILED AT LEE.RHIANNON%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">LEE.RHIANNONPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU

TO CLOSE, I ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER FROM RICHARD AMERY'S OFFICE. HE WAS ONE OF
THE PEOPLE WE MET WITH IN OUR FIRST TWO DAYS AT PARLIAMENT AND HE ASKED
QUESTIONS ON NOTICE FOR US ON THE 31ST OF MAY. TO DATE, THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT
RESPONDED BUT I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED AS MORE DETAILS COME TO HAND. HERE ARE THE
QUESTIONS:

0202 - AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK

MR RICHARD AMERY TO THE MINISTER FOR HEALTH -

1- HAS THE GROUP CALLED THE AUSTRALIAN VACCINATION NETWORK (AVN) EXPRESSED
CONCERNS ABOUT THE REGULATIONS THAT REQUIRE THE COMPULSORY VACCINATION OF HEALTH
WORKERS IN NSW?

2- DOES THIS REQUIREMENT RELATE TO ALL HEALTH WORKERS IN ALL FACETS OF HEALTH
CARE UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE NSW HEALTH DEPARTMENT?

3- IS THIS REGULATION DESIGNED TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF INFECTIOUS DISEASES
TO PATIENTS AND OTHER HEALTH WORKERS?

4- IS THERE ANY RECORD OF A DISEASE BEING SPREAD BY AN UNVACCINATED HEALTH
WORKER TO A PATIENT, HEALTH WORKER OR OTHER PERSON IN :

A) NEW SOUTH WALES
B) AUSTRALIA
C) ELSEWHERE?

LASTLY, SOMEONE WE DIDNT EVEN MEET WITH HAS WRITTEN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH ON OUR BEHALF. THREE TO FOUR WEEKS BEFORE WE WENT TO PARLIAMENT, WE
EMAILED EVERY SINGLE MP AND MLC ASKING FOR APPOINTMENTS. OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE
MEMBERS COULDNT SEE US BUT DID WRITE A LETTER ON OUR BEHALF WHICH IS WONDERFUL.

THE MEMBER IS GEOFF CORRIGAN, MEMBER FOR CAMDEN AND A MEMBER OF THE LABOR
PARTY (WOW!). HE WROTE TO THE MINISTER FOR HEALTH WHO MUST HAVE FORWARDED HIS
LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HERE IS THEIR REPLY WHICH I ALSO RECEIVED
TODAY:

DEAR MR CORRIGAN,

THE MINISTER FOR HEALTH, THE HON REBA MEAGHER MP, HAS RECEIVED YOUR
REPRESENTATIONS ON BEHALF OF MS MERYL DOREY, NATIONAL PRESIDENT OF THE AUSTRALIAN
VACCINATION NETWORK INC.

THE MINISTER HAS ASKED ME TO ADVISE YOU THAT THE MATTERS RAISED ARE BEING
CONSIDERED AND A REPLY WILL BE SENT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

YOURS SINCERELY,

ROBERT D MCGREGOR AM
A/DIRECTOR GENERAL

GEOFF CORRIGANS EMAIL ADDRESS IS CAMDEN%40PARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU">CAMDENPARLIAMENT.NSW.GOV.AU AND I CANT
FIND DIRECT CONTACT DETAILS FOR ROBERT MCGREGOR AND WHEN I CONTACTED REBA
MEAGHERS OFFICE, THEY WERE VERY UNHELPFUL INDEED. IF YOU WANT TO SNAIL MAIL YOUR
LETTER TO HIM, THE ADDRESS IS 73 MILLER STREET, NORTH SYDNEY NSW 2060 OR YOU
CAN SEND HIM AN EMAIL VIA THE DEPARTMENTS WEBSITE WWW.HEALTH.NSW.GOV.AU AND
THEN CLICK ON THE CONTACTS PAGE. JUST DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO ROBERT D
MCGREGOR.

THANKS FOR WADING THROUGH ALL OF THIS. I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER VERY
SHORT ITEMS TO COVER SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME FOR ONE MORE MINUTE AND THEN, YOU CAN
FINISH THAT CUPPA AND GET BACK TO WHATEVER IT WAS YOU WERE DOING J

INFORMED VOICE VOL 5 NUMBER 1 OUT NOW!

OUR LATEST ISSUE HAS JUST COME BACK FROM THE PRINTER AND WAS SENT OUT LAST
WEEK. IF YOU ARE ALREADY A SUBSCRIBER, YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN YOUR HANDS RIGHT
NOW. IT IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT ENTERING OUR FIFTH YEAR OF PUBLICATION AS A
MAGAZINE AND I THANK ALL OF OUR MEMBERS AND SUBSCRIBERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

I DO HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD QUITE A LARGE AND SHOCKING DECLINE
IN MEMBERSHIP OVER THE LAST 2 QUARTERS WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE NOT RENEWING
THEIR MEMBERSHIPS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AND DOZENS OF PROFESSIONALS DECIDING TO
DROP OUT TOO. JANIECE IS BUSY EVEN AS WE SPEAK SENDING OFF 360 REMINDER LETTERS
TO LAPSED SUPPORTERS AND IF WE GET THE SAME RESPONSE THIS QUARTER AS WE DID
LAST, IT IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY DIRE SITUATION.

NOW WHERE YOU PLACE YOUR SUPPORT IS YOUR OWN DECISION AND I KNOW THAT THERE
ARE A MILLION GOOD CAUSES OUT THERE AND ONLY SO MUCH MONEY TO GO AROUND. I
WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU HOWEVER THAT IF YOU HAVENT RENEWED SIMPLY BECAUSE ITS
BEEN SOMETHING YOUVE FORGOTTEN TO DO DONT PUT IT OFF ANY LONGER. WE NEED
YOUR HELP NOW AS WE NEVER HAVE BEFORE. NEVER HAVE I BEEN BUSIER BETWEEN RUNNING
OFF TO SYDNEY TWICE IN 2 WEEKS, GETTING THE MAGAZINE OUT TO YOU, ANSWERING
LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PHONE CALLS A MONTH FROM PEOPLE WHO NEED INFORMATION AND
HELP AND THE MYRIAD OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND HERE. IN FACT, OUR WHOLE
OFFICE HAS BEEN RUN OFF ITS FEET AND WE ARE ALL STRUGGLING TO KEEP IT GOING.
THE $44 A YEAR YOU PAY FOR YOUR SUBSCRIPTION AND THE $22 FOR MEMBERSHIP IS THE
THING THAT KEEPS US ACTIVE ON YOUR BEHALF. WITHOUT YOU, NONE OF US WOULD BE
ABLE TO CONTINUE.

SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVENT RENEWED/JOINED/SUBSCRIBED, DONT WAIT. VISIT
WWW.AVN.ORG.AU AND SUBSCRIBE USING OUR SECURE WEBSITE FACILITY OR CALL US ON 1300
655 088. YOU CAN ALSO FAX US ON 02 6687 2032 OR MAIL US AT AVN, PO BOX 177,
BANGALOW NSW 2479. HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT, DO IT NOW!

WEB AND NEWSLETTER ADVERTISING

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO CONTACTED US WITH EXPRESSIONS OF INTEREST AFTER THE
LAST ISSUE OF DOING THE ROUNDS TO REQUEST INFORMATION ON ADVERTISING ON OUR
WEBSITE. WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO HAVING SOME FINALISED PRICES/POSITIONS AND WILL
BE GETTING BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WORKED OUT.

ONE VERY EXCITING DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS COME OUT OF THOSE CONTACTS HAS BEEN AN
INTEREST IN ADVERTISING IN THE DOING THE ROUNDS. I DONT KNOW WHY I DIDNT
THINK OF THAT MYSELF? WE SEND THIS NEWSLETTER OUT TO ALMOST 5,000 INTERESTED
PEOPLE AND IT IS AN OBVIOUS CHOICE FOR ANYONE TRYING TO REACH A GROUP OF
HEALTH-MINDED CONSUMERS AND PRACTITIONERS.

IN ADDITION, WE WILL SOON BE TURNING THIS LITTLE EMAIL BROADSHEET INTO A
FORTNIGHTLY NEWSLETTER ENCOMPASSING THE SAME ISSUES THAT WE COVER IN OUR MAGAZINE
NATURAL HEALTH, VACCINATION, PARENTING, ORGANICS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. SO
LOOK TO SEE AN UPDATED AND MORE REGULAR EDITION OF DOING THE ROUNDS COMING OUT
SOON AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT ABOUT THE ADVERTISING
OPPORTUNITIES ON EITHER THIS NEWSLETTER OR OUR WEBSITE, PLEASE CONTACT DIANNE ON 02 6687
0469 OR EMAIL ADVERTISING%40INFORMEDVOICE.COM.AU">ADVERTISINGINFORMEDVOICE.COM.AU. REMEMBER, CURRENT PRINT
ADVERTISERS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS GREAT DISCOUNTS ON OUR VIRTUAL AD POSITIONS.

AVN SEMINAR ADJUST TO THE CHALLENGES OF VACCINATION

I AM VERY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE HOSTING A SEMINAR ON THE SUNSHINE
COAST (ONE OF MY FAVOURITE PARTS OF AUSTRALIA!) IN LATE AUGUST THIS YEAR. THERE
WILL BE THREE SPEAKERS OTHER THAN MYSELF AND THEY ARE ALL DYNAMIC, INNOVATIVE
AND INCREDIBLY INFORMATIVE PEOPLE WHO YOU WILL NEVER REGRET HAVING HEARD SO
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO COME PLEASE DO AS THIS IS A ONE-OFF AND WILL NOT BE
REPEATED IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

THE DATE IS SATURDAY, AUGUST 29TH AND IT IS AT THE LAKE KAWANA COMMUNITY
CENTRE IN BOKARINA QLD (THERE IS A FULL PAGE AD FOR THIS SEMINAR ON PAGE 14 OF
THIS QUARTERS EDITION OF INFORMED VOICE).

THE SPEAKERS WILL BE:

MARK POSTLES OF COAST KAWANA CHIROPRACTIC WHOSE TALK IS ITS A BEAUTIFUL
LIFE!

SARAH FARRANT AUTHOR OF THE VITAL TRUTH WHO WILL BE DISCUSSING WHERE
DOES HEALTH COME FROM AND HOW CAN WE ACHIEVE AND MAINTAIN IT?

CINDY OMEARA AUTHOR OF CHANGING HABITS, CHANGING LIVES WHO WILL HELP US
TO UNDERSTAND THAT LITTLE CHANGES CAN ACHIEVE BIG RESULTS

AND ME, MERYL DOREY WHO WILL BE DISCUSSING THE VOODOO CHILDREN WHY ARE OUR
KIDS GETTING SO MANY VACCINES AND HOW IS THAT AFFECTING THEIR HEALTH.

ALL IN ALL IT WILL BE A FANTASTIC DAY. THE SEMINAR IS AT 12 PM FOR A 12:30
PM SHARP START AND FINISHES AT 6 PM. ALL ARE WELCOME AND BOOKINGS CAN BE MADE
BY PHONING 1300 665 088 (COST OF A LOCAL CALL ANYWHERE IN AUSTRALIA) OR VIA
OUR WEBSITE WWW.AVN.ORG.AU JUST CLICK ON THE SHOP LINK AT THE TOP OF THE
PAGE AND THEN, THE SEMINARS/EVENTS LINK ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.

THERE ARE DISCOUNTS FOR AVN MEMBERS SO MAKE SURE YOUR MEMBERSHIP IS
UP-TO-DATE OR IF IT ISNT, YOU CAN JOIN WHILE YOU BOOK AND GET THE DISCOUNT.

GOOD-BYE FOR 3 WEEKS

YOU WONT BE GETTING ANOTHER UPDATE FOR A LITTLE WHILE IM AFRAID. I AM
ACTUALLY TAKING MY FIRST HOLIDAY FROM THE OFFICE AND THE COMPUTER FOR ALMOST 4
WHOLE YEARS! AND WHILST I AM GETTING THE SHAKES JUST THINKING ABOUT IT, IT WILL
BE GREAT FOR ME, MY LONG SUFFERING HUSBAND AND CHILDREN AND MY SISTERS WHO ARE
COMING IN FROM THE US FOR A VISIT.

SO PLEASE BE PATIENT IF YOU EMAIL ME AND DONT GET A RESPONSE. I WILL BE BACK
IN THE OFFICE RE-ENERGISED AND READY TO GO ON JULY 12TH.

UNTIL THEN, STAY HEALTHY, STAY INFORMED, STAY ALERT!

ALL THE BEST,

MERYL MERYL DOREY
AVN
PH: 02 6687 1699
FAX: 02 6687 2032
EMAIL: INFO%40AVN.ORG.AU">INFOAVN.ORG.AU

POSTAL ADDRESS:
PO BOX 177
BANGALOW NSW 2479

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