AW: Building Ant 1.7beta

>> I've grumbled in the past that it is not very
friendly for Ant trunk 
>> sources to be unbuildable by the current Ant
release, but another 
>> committer (I forget now who) said this was
intentional...?
>
>Might have been me.
>
>Sometimes we build new features that are useful enough
to 
>apply the right away in Ant's own build file.  It would
have 
>been silly to not use <fileset> in Ant 1.2, not
use <macrodef> 
>in Ant 1.6.0's build.xml where either of both saved us
a 
>couple of lines and made the build file far more
readable.
>
>Stefan


Especially: you know only the Ant src-version present (the
current
version).
You dont know which binary-version of Ant is installed (Ant
1.6.5, 1.5,
14?)
That means your buildfile must be "very" bwc ...


Jan

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> Especially: you know only the Ant src-version present
(the current
> version).
> You dont know which binary-version of Ant is installed
(Ant 1.6.5, 1.5,
> 14?)
> That means your buildfile must be "very"
bwc ...

Basically we improve Ant and add new features so that we can
refactor
the ant build.xml file so that it's easier to build
ant...it's also a
good way of testing the new features ;)

Making the buildfile bwc would prevent us from doing this
and mean that
we couldn't use all the cool new stuff that we spend our
time developing

OT slightly, does ant build maven in gump?  I was asked at
ApacheCon and
didn't know for sure (but said 'probably' anyway).

Kev


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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Kev Jackson <foamdinogmail.com> wrote:

> OT slightly, does ant build maven in gump?

No.  Well, for Maven 1 it tries but never managed to do so. 
I don't
think you can build Maven 2 with Ant at all, it bootstraps
itself much
like Ant does.

Stefan

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Kev Jackson wrote:
>> Especially: you know only the Ant src-version
present (the current
>> version).
>> You dont know which binary-version of Ant is
installed (Ant 1.6.5, 1.5,
>> 14?)
>> That means your buildfile must be
"very" bwc ...
> 
> Basically we improve Ant and add new features so that
we can refactor
> the ant build.xml file so that it's easier to build
ant...it's also a
> good way of testing the new features ;)
> 
> Making the buildfile bwc would prevent us from doing
this and mean that
> we couldn't use all the cool new stuff that we spend
our time developing
> 
> OT slightly, does ant build maven in gump?  I was asked
at ApacheCon and
> didn't know for sure (but said 'probably' anyway).

Gump doesnt work with Maven2, nobody from the maven2 team
has put in the 
effort to do it, focusing on continuum instead. ITs slowly
reducing the 
value of Gump.

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