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Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-27 19:31:16
Hi Lenya devs, FYI - tonight I started to implement a feature that I'm missing for a long time: a simple AJAX-based inline editor (see attached screenshot). The functionality is very restricted: You can just edit blocks (p, h1, h2, ...). The major purpose is to fix typos or change the wording of a sentence. The editor is triggered by clicking on a block element in the authoring view. At the moment it supports only plain text blocks, i.e. no inline styles. Another issue is that the usecase which saves the content takes quite long. Actually you don't notice this because the saving happens in the background and the text in the page is replaced by the textarea content before the asynchronous usecase request is sent, but nevertheless we have to provide a simple usecase view which doesn't redirect to the page after the usecase is executed. Do you find a feature like this useful? If yes, I can add it to the sandbox after the release. -- Andreas -- Andreas Hartmann, CTO BeCompany GmbH http://www.becompany.ch Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org


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Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-28 01:54:33
Hi Andreas > > Do you find a feature like this useful? If yes, I can add it to the > sandbox after the release. > Yes, very useful. But I'd rather use design mode / content editable instead of forms for the same restricted feature set. Would improve user experience and also would keep the document flow intact. If you use Ajax you require the brower to enable javascript anyway and all major browser engines support content editable out of the box. Ciao Thomas > -- Andreas > > > -- > Andreas Hartmann, CTO > BeCompany GmbH > http://www.becompany.ch > Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01 > <inlineEditor.png> > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ ----- Thomas Comiotto thomas.comiottoid.uzh.ch Universitaet Zuerich Informatikdienste Tel: +41 44 63 54541 Winterthurerstrasse 190 +41 44 63 43333 CH-8057 Zuerich Fax: +41 44 63 54505 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-28 07:51:05
Andreas Hartmann wrote: > Hi Lenya devs, > > FYI - tonight I started to implement a feature that I'm missing for a > long time: a simple AJAX-based inline editor (see attached screenshot). > > The functionality is very restricted: You can just edit blocks (p, h1, > h2, ...). The major purpose is to fix typos or change the wording of a > sentence. The editor is triggered by clicking on a block element in > the authoring view. > > At the moment it supports only plain text blocks, i.e. no inline styles. > > Another issue is that the usecase which saves the content takes quite > long. Actually you don't notice this because the saving happens in the > background and the text in the page is replaced by the textarea > content before the asynchronous usecase request is sent, but > nevertheless we have to provide a simple usecase view which doesn't > redirect to the page after the usecase is executed. > > Do you find a feature like this useful? If yes, I can add it to the > sandbox after the release. sure. Where do you see the difference to TinyMCE? What about enhancing TinyMCE with some AJAX, or am I misunderstanding something? Cheers Michael > > -- Andreas > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > >-------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- > >-------------------------------------------------------- ------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org > -- Michael Wechner Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup http://www.wyona.com michael.wechnerwyona.com, michiapache.org +41 44 272 91 61 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-28 07:51:44
Thomas Comiotto wrote: > Hi Andreas > >> >> Do you find a feature like this useful? If yes, I can add it to the >> sandbox after the release. >> > > Yes, very useful. But I'd rather use design mode / content editable > instead of forms for the same restricted feature set. Would improve > user experience and also would keep the document flow intact. If you > use Ajax you require the brower to enable javascript anyway and all > major browser engines support content editable out of the box. btw, what about your editor? Has it become available? Cheers Michael > > Ciao > Thomas > > >> -- Andreas >> >> >> -- >> Andreas Hartmann, CTO >> BeCompany GmbH >> http://www.becompany.ch >> Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01 >> <inlineEditor.png> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ----- > Thomas Comiotto > thomas.comiottoid.uzh.ch > > Universitaet Zuerich > Informatikdienste Tel: +41 44 > 63 54541 > Winterthurerstrasse 190 +41 44 > 63 43333 > CH-8057 Zuerich Fax: +41 44 > 63 54505 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org > -- Michael Wechner Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup http://www.wyona.com michael.wechnerwyona.com, michiapache.org +41 44 272 91 61 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-28 08:29:51
> Would this also make sense for source editing? Unfortunately I'm > not yet familiar with the contentEditable mechanism ... > ok i see - if you just want to edit xml source snippets mapped to xhtml block tags you're better of with forms. Thomas > -- Andreas > > > >> Would improve user experience and also would keep the document >> flow intact. >> If you use Ajax you require the brower to enable javascript anyway >> and all major browser engines support content editable out of the >> box. >> Ciao >> Thomas >>> -- Andreas >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andreas Hartmann, CTO >>> BeCompany GmbH >>> http://www.becompany.ch >>> Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01 >>> <inlineEditor.png> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------- >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org >> ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- >> -------- Thomas Comiotto >> thomas.comiottoid.uzh.ch >> Universitaet Zuerich >> Informatikdienste Tel: +41 >> 44 63 54541 >> Winterthurerstrasse 190 +41 >> 44 63 43333 >> CH-8057 Zuerich Fax: +41 >> 44 63 54505 > > > -- > Andreas Hartmann, CTO > BeCompany GmbH > http://www.becompany.ch > Tel.: +41 (0) 43 818 57 01 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ ----- Thomas Comiotto thomas.comiottoid.uzh.ch Universitaet Zuerich Informatikdienste Tel: +41 44 63 54541 Winterthurerstrasse 190 +41 44 63 43333 CH-8057 Zuerich Fax: +41 44 63 54505 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Switzerland	2007-11-28 08:34:43
Andreas Hartmann wrote: > Michael Wechner schrieb: > >> Andreas Hartmann wrote: >> >>> Hi Lenya devs, >>> >>> FYI - tonight I started to implement a feature that I'm missing for >>> a long time: a simple AJAX-based inline editor (see attached >>> screenshot). >> > > [...] > >> sure. Where do you see the difference to TinyMCE? > > > - source code editing (no WYSIWYG, no buttons) > - support for arbitrary XML > - planned: syntax highlighting, e.g. with CodePress > - no noticeable load and save time > > It's not meant as a full-featured editor, it rather meets my personal > needs. Usually I use the OneForm editor, but I want a more direct way > to edit the source without leaving the page. sounds great Cheers Michael > >> What about enhancing TinyMCE with some AJAX > > > That would certainly be nice too. > > -- Andreas > > -- Michael Wechner Wyona - Open Source Content Management - Yanel, Yulup http://www.wyona.com michael.wechnerwyona.com, michiapache.org +41 44 272 91 61 ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

Re: Simple Ajax-based inline editor
Spain	2007-11-28 13:49:45
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 02:31 +0100, Andreas Hartmann wrote: > Hi Lenya devs, > > FYI - tonight I started to implement a feature that I'm missing for a > long time: a simple AJAX-based inline editor (see attached screenshot). ht tp://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/htmlEditor.html "An inline HTML based word processor based on the Kupu library." demo: htt p://www.irian.at/myfacesexamples/inputHtml.jsf Later in this thread you say you do not need all the fancy stuff but the above JSF extension is very nice. Lately I got into JSF (JavaServer Faces) and Apache MyFaces (so much more fun in developing user interfaces). AFAIR there is a faces block in cocoon. Maybe it is worth checking it out. salu2 > > The functionality is very restricted: You can just edit blocks (p, h1, > h2, ...). The major purpose is to fix typos or change the wording of a > sentence. The editor is triggered by clicking on a block element in the > authoring view. > > At the moment it supports only plain text blocks, i.e. no inline styles. > > Another issue is that the usecase which saves the content takes quite > long. Actually you don't notice this because the saving happens in the > background and the text in the page is replaced by the textarea content > before the asynchronous usecase request is sent, but nevertheless we > have to provide a simple usecase view which doesn't redirect to the page > after the usecase is executed. > > Do you find a feature like this useful? If yes, I can add it to the > sandbox after the release. > > -- Andreas > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions ------------------------------------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribelenya.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-helplenya.apache.org

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