wow.

i've just browsed the zones demo. people are giving the poor
server a
jolly good beating. there's currently > 40 publications

problem is: the default (or soon-to-be "example")
publication is all but
invisible now.

how about

* hard-linking the example publication from the
introduction.html
content, to make sure it is always evident that people
should play with
this first?

* making it harder to create a new publication?

currently, we basically open a DOS hole by allowing any joe
sixpack to
clutter the disks. every serious lenya deployment needs to
disable the
createPublication usecase, but it's not even evident how
this is done.
would it be too much of an entry barrier to move the
createPublication
usecase *into* the example publication and require admin
rights to
execute it?
we could then put an explanation on the example pub's
index.html page
and point people to that feature.
that way, really interested users can still play with it,
but those
"wow, here's something i can click on" type of
users won't be tempted 

plus, the custom publications need to be purged more
often...


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Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Jörn Nettingsmeier schrieb:
>> * making it harder to create a new publication?
> 
> I have mixed feelings. I understand your concern, but
OTOH this is IMO
> the first feature many users will be looking for. Maybe
we should rather
> present a tutorial-like "Welcome" page to
guide the unexperienced
> visitor instead of our "Latest changes for
development version
> testers"?. I imagine something like this:
> 
>    1. Getting started: Browse the example publication
> 
>    2. Create your own page
> 
>    3. Create your own publication
> 
>    4. ...

i have a feeling that most people will create a new
publication before
they have looked at the example one, simply because it is
the very first
interactive item on the page.

and all the recent breakage and problems were caused by the
createPublication usecase iiuc - this is a one-time-only,
admin-only
convenience thing. it's not particularly robust and doesn't
need to be.
but as it is now, it will dominate people's user experience.
bad.

all i'm trying to do is direct people to the example pub
*first*, and
then allow them to create their own. your list pretty much
covers that
except for people who go "hey, a form field. let's type
something and
submit it!". judging by zones, these are the majority
;)




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