SV: Re: SV: Re: SV: Re: Simple Web Interface

--- Erik Hatcher <erikehatchersolutions.com>
skrev:

> 
> On Mar 21, 2007, at 2:14 AM, Antonio Eggberg wrote:

>  
> I'm not sure what you mean by top-down or
frequency-based faceting.   
> Could you elaborate?
 
> > http://www.mar
umushi.com/apps/newsmap/
> 
> Very cool!   So this is what you are driving with Solr
currently?   
> Where does Flare factor into this?

No no, sorry the above site is not mine  I am using
it at as an
example use case that I have. Among other things the above
site
capture some of the stuff that I am planning on doing i.e.
using
flare/solr-ruby. this brings me to the frequency-based
faceting ..
for lack of better term. I am trying to figure out a way to
present
the index based on frequency i.e. if i could find a way to
do reverse
example :

By Author (15)
 - abc (8)
 - xyz (7)
By Country ..
 - ..
 - ..

Keyword XX or Phrase YYY
 - Author (15)
 - Country (25)

So in the case above the keyword is dynamic and its based on
a frequency
i.e top 100 keywords or phrase beside the stop words etc..
This is what I 
am labeling as "dynamic frequency based faceting"
like the example URL
above.. They above site is doing it by using some sort of
"tree map algorithm"
However no one can use it cos its patented and its cost
money :-(, I have
already tried.. is this something in your plan?

Maybe I don't know enough maybe its possible to do with solr
today. I have
a feeling that one must extend request handler.. but I
haven't looked into
it yet.

I have some more thoughts regarding how will i implement
flare/solr but have
to wait before I get passed the first test.

I am trying out the flare as plugin I will get back to you
with feedback. That
was very fast converting it to flare plugin.

cheers





	
	
		
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On Mar 21, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Antonio Eggberg wrote:
> this brings me to the frequency-based faceting ..
> for lack of better term. I am trying to figure out a
way to present
> the index based on frequency i.e. if i could find a way
to do reverse
> example :
>
> By Author (15)
>  - abc (8)
>  - xyz (7)
> By Country ..
>  - ..
>  - ..
>
> Keyword XX or Phrase YYY
>  - Author (15)
>  - Country (25)
>
> So in the case above the keyword is dynamic and its
based on a  
> frequency
> i.e top 100 keywords or phrase beside the stop words
etc.. This is  
> what I
> am labeling as "dynamic frequency based
faceting" like the example URL
> above..

Solr supports facet queries.  In your example, Solr could be
asked  
for a count of all documents (matching other constraints
perhaps too,  
of course) that have an Author field... that would be  
&facet.query=Author:[* TO *], or the opposite, all
documents that do  
not have an Author field with &facet.query=-Author:[* TO
*].

Give saved searches a try in Flare for an example, type each
of those  
expressions as unique constraints and save them.  You'll see
what I  
mean then, I think.  Also, look at the individual facet
pages (the  
"browse" links by each facet) and see the last
entry that shows "---  
NO VALUE ---".  Is this getting warmer to what you're
after?

> Maybe I don't know enough maybe its possible to do with
solr today.  
> I have
> a feeling that one must extend request handler.. but I
haven't  
> looked into
> it yet.

Let me know if the above information doesn't do what you're
after,  
but I think we got the use-case you're after covered.

> I am trying out the flare as plugin I will get back to
you with  
> feedback. That
> was very fast converting it to flare plugin.

again, it's a hack at this point.  much more work is needed
to make  
it easily configurable, and to put the templates into the
plugin too  
(and make them overridable/extensible too).

	Erik