Java 5?

I am actually a reluctant +0 on this.  I won't hold it up
if everyone 
votes for it, but I am still not convinced its the right
decision.

So far I am yet to hear a real reason why we should or
better yet why we 
*need* to switch to 1.5.  While its true that this probably
won't affect 
most people, we are still going to be alienating at least
some portion 
of our userbase who for some reason or another is running on
1.4.  It 
doesn't seem very community/customer friendly to do that.

My personal feeling is that it's somewhat irresponsible to
upgrade the 
jdk just because we want to and not because we really need
to.

SIDE NOTE: one thing that did come up in the mini-hackathon
on wednesday 
was the problem of JPA requiring 1.5.  Mitesh was going to
double check 
on it, but it sounds like that's the case.  If so then this
would be an 
actual reason to go to 1.5, if we decide we want to support
a JPA backend.

-- Allen


Anil Gangolli wrote:
> 
> +1.
> 
> with several comments:
> 
> - I've been using 1.5 at runtime for Roller in Tomcat
5.5.x for some time.
> 
> - There is a longtime complaint (ROL-644) from one user
that 1.5 breaks 
> Roller and Velocity 1.4, except on Tomcat 5.5, and that
we would need to 
> remove a bunch of leading slashes from velocity
resource paths to make 
> it work on other app servers.   This bears some looking
into if we 
> switch, or perhaps we upgrade to Velocity 1.5, which
also reportedly 
> resolves this.
> 
> - While initially this would be just a flip of a
switch, it would be 
> good to write down what this means for our coding
conventions, 
> particularly around the use of generics in declarations
and our casting 
> conventions for dealing with the libs and any other
code returning 
> "plain" collections.
> 
> - We'll see people start using autoboxing
(inadvertently even ; and 
> we can expect a few mysterious NPEs cropping up.
> 
> --a.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt
Raible" <mraiblegmail.com>
> To: <roller-devincubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Java 5?
> 
> 
>> +1 for now!  I'm doing it in AppFuse.  You could
always use
>> Retroweaver for folks wanting to deploy to 1.4. 
The only reason I can
>> think of wanting to deploy to 1.4 is because
they're using some
>> WebSphere 5.1 or something.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 9/15/06, Dave Johnson <snoopdavegmail.com> wrote:
>>> When can we switch over to Java 5? I'm getting
tired of juggling JVMs
>>> and living in the past.
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>
>