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Re: Welcome to Apche Forrest as part of GSoC
country flaguser name
United States
2007-04-13 19:01:53
Ross Gardler wrote:
> I'd like to welcome Oshani Wasana Seneviratne and Sina
Khakbaz Heshmati 
> to Apache Forrest as part of this years Google Summer
of Code (GSoC).

Great. Welcome.

> The GSoC is unusual as a community building device in
that there is an 
> external incentive for contribution (i.e. cash they
won't get unless 
> they contribute). Nevertheless, others are here because
they have some 
> external incentive. For me, it is a small part of my
day job and hence I 
> too get paid to be here, ranted, I tend to be here
quite alot out of 
> office hours too - but that's because I've learnt what
a great thing 
> community driven software is. It is therefore the job
of existing 
> community members to try and teach the value of
community development to 
>  Oshani and Sina.
> 
> So, the first thing to learn about community
development is there should 
> be no private discussion regarding the project.
Therefore, this is the 
> last email I will send to either of your private
addresses. You both 
> need to subscribe to the relevant mailing lists [1] and
reply to this 
> mail once you are subscribed.
> 
> Note, mails about GSoC can be sent privately to your
mentor if you prefer

Yes, we cannot emphasise this enough.

Among the other benefits, this enables the whole
community to share the load of supporting. Not just
leaving it to the designated mentors.

More eyes also helps to keep people on-track,
even the mentors some times.

Of course, the community also gets to see and
participate in the evolving solution.

> Officially GSoC does not start until next month.
However, Apache Forrest 
> really could use your help right now. We have a release
candidate being 
> tested for release. Having you install and test it,
along with the rest 
> of the community, would be great. If you have time and
inclination 
> please let us know on the dev list and we'll point you
to the right 
> information.
> 
> What to do next?
> 
> The first thing you need to do is get to grips with the
way we do things 
> around here. A good place to start is [2].

Ross might already be going to follow up with
this additional stuff, but anyway ...

It is also good to become familiar with the general
ASF documentation for developers [3]. There is stacks
of resources and explanation of processes. Don't get lost.

Don't take it as the whole truth either. As with all docs,
including Forrest's, they can be out-of-date, incomplete,
and incorrect. Much information is available in the
various mail archives,

The "How the ASF works" is also extremely useful
[4].

Bear in mind that each project can do things in their
own way, while still being consistent with ASF ideals.
Each project should have guidelines for all of us
developers.
Ours are here [5].

> Please do not be shy. We understand you are new to
Forrest and our 
> development model. We were all new to it once. Please
ask questions, we 
> will answer as fully as time allows (often pointing at
docs for you to 
> read as background).

Even wonky questions are fine. They give opportunity
for others to explain obscure things, and so explanations
become available in the mail archives. So please do
search the mail lists and our docs. With such a small
community we do need to try to keep the level down
(says me, waffling on).

-David

> It would be *really* helpful if you could start writing
a FAQ about 
> getting started as a Forrest developer (perhaps your
first question 
> would be how - or perhaps you can find it in our docs,
it is there 
> 
> Finally, you are here to enjoy yourselves, so have
fun!
> 
> Ross and Gavin
> GSoC Mentors for Apache Forrest
> 
> [1] http://forr
est.apache.org/mail-lists.html
> [2] http://forrest
.apache.org/contrib.html
[3] http://www.apache.org/dev/

[4] ht
tp://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
[5] http://forr
est.apache.org/guidelines.html


Re: Welcome to Apche Forrest as part of GSoC
user name
2007-04-16 07:54:00
....

> It would be *really* helpful if you could start writing a FAQ about
> getting started as a Forrest developer (perhaps your first question
> would be how - or perhaps you can find it in our docs, it is there

Hi,
(whispering) I wanted to ask that question but I was so shy that I didn't dare to. Now, you just lead me the way.(whispering)

Are you (developers) using an IDE to develop Forrest? How do you test that your feature is working? Which langage?

Does any Forrest source editor exist or we have to use our own xml editor ?

I've got a lot of questions about forrest but as I'm a new user i dare not ask them

Thx

 

>
> Finally, you are here to enjoy yourselves, so have fun!
>;
> Ross and Gavin
> GSoC Mentors for Apache Forrest
>

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