RE: XMLBeans and SchemaTron

Hunm....if I understand correctly what you said. If I
include schematron tags into a XML Schema and give the XML
Schema to XMLBeans to use, it will not work ??? Because
XMLBeans doesn't have a engine to process the embed
schematron tags ??

Atenciosamente

Rafael T. Icibaci
IBM Middleware EAI Team
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-----Original Message-----
From: Radu Preotiuc-Pietro [mailto:radupbea.com]

Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de abril de 2007 17:28
To: userxmlbeans.apache.org
Subject: RE: XMLBeans and SchemaTron

This is only half of it though. Having the Schematron rules
inside a
Schema means that you can get to the rules from XmlBeans,
but you still
need a Schematron validation engine to process the rules and
apply them
to the incoming document. What is this validation engine (if
you can?

Radu

On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 10:02 -0300, Rafael Tatsuya Icibaci
wrote:
> Radu,
> 
>  
> 
> XMLBeans support XML Schemas so, if we have a way to
embed schematron
> tags within XSD, so my problem is solved. I think I
found it..BTW, 
> 
> It's the same solution that I found earlier in this
note(schematron
> tags into <appinfo> context), see sample XSD
below:
> 
>  
> 
> Marcelo:  Seems that we are good to proceed this way.
We only need to
> check if this solution will catch up all our
scenarios.
> 
>  
> 
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
> <xsd:schema xmlnssd=&q
uot;http://www.w3.
org/2001/XMLSchema"
>         targetNamespace="http://www.demo.org"
>         xmlns="http://www.demo.org" 
>         xmlns:sch="http://www.a
scc.net/xml/schematron"
>         elementFormDefault="qualified">
>     <xsd:annotation>
>         <xsd:appinfo>
>             <sch:title>Schematron
validation</sch:title>
>             <sch:ns prefix="d"
uri="http://www.demo.org&qu
ot;/>
>         </xsd:appinfo>
>     </xsd:annotation>
>     <xsd:element name="Demo">
>         <xsd:annotation>
>             <xsd:appinfo>
>                 <sch:pattern name="Check A
greater than B">
>                     <sch:rule context="demo"
;>
>                         <sch:assert test="d:A
> d:B" 
>                                    
diagnostics="lessThan">
>                                 A should be greater
than B.
>                         </sch:assert>
>                     </sch:rule>
>                 </sch:pattern>
>                 <sch:diagnostics>
>                     <sch:diagnostic
id="lessThan">
>                         Error! A is less than B 
>                         A = <sch:value-of
select="d:A"/>
>                         B = <sch:value-of
select="d:B"/>
>                     </sch:diagnostic>
>                 </sch:diagnostics>
>             </xsd:appinfo>
>         </xsd:annotation>
>         <xsd:complexType>
>             <xsd:sequence>
>                 <xsd:element name="A"
type="xsd:integer"/>
>                 <xsd:element name="B"
type="xsd:integer"/>
>             </xsd:sequence>
>         </xsd:complexType>
>     </xsd:element>
> </xsd:schema>
> 
>  
> 
> Reference: http://ww
w.xfront.com/ExtendingSchemas.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Atenciosamente
> 
> Rafael T. Icibaci
> IBM Middleware EAI Team
> ( + 55 11 2113-7685
> È + 55 11 9299-7840
> * ricibaci_ibmtimbrasil.com.br
> 
> 
>                                    
>
____________________________________________________________
__________
> From: Radu Preotiuc-Pietro [mailto:radupbea.com]

> Sent: segunda-feira, 9 de abril de 2007 18:22
> To: userxmlbeans.apache.org; Webber, David
(NIH/OD) [C]
> Cc: Marcelo Martins Pereira
> Subject: RE: XMLBeans and SchemaTron
> 
> 
>  
> 
> First time I hear abour JCam, so no.
> 
>  
> 
> What I suggest you do is the following:
> 
>  
> 
> If you can find a Schematron validator somewhere that
can act as a
> "filter" for a SAX or StAX stream or that
works over DOM, you can plug
> that in as a separate step and still use XMLBeans and
Schema
> validation. XMLBeans supports all three of these
standard APIs so
> maybe you can get around it this way.
> 
>  
> 
> The thing about it is that implementing a validation
engine is a lot
> of work, so we had to limit ourselves to 1 and that had
to be pretty
> much XMLSchema. Now, if someone who knows Schematron
would be willing
> to contribute something in XmlBeans in that area it
would be a welcome
> addition, but without a volunteer, it's unlikely to
happen, I would
> say.
> 
>  
> 
> Anyway, if you do find such a "filter"
validator, please do post back
> and let us know.
> 
>  
> 
> Radu
> 
>  
> 
>                                    
>
____________________________________________________________
__________
> From: Rafael Tatsuya Icibaci [mailto:ricibaci_ibmtimbrasil.com.br] 
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:08 PM
> To: Webber, David (NIH/OD) [C]; userxmlbeans.apache.org
> Cc: Marcelo Martins Pereira
> Subject: RE: XMLBeans and SchemaTron
> 
> Yes, I need content validation. What we exactly want to
do is: We have
> a requirement to use XMLBeans, also today we have a
need to include
> conditional expressions in XSD files (e.g.: if we have
a tag so we
> need to have the other as well). Schematron appears to
be the
> solution, because we can set these conditions using
XPath, but now the
> question is: If we are going to use XMLBeans and we
will pass a XSD
> file to XMLbeans to validate, XMLBeans support
SchemTron ? I can pass
> a .SCH file to XMLBeans ? or I have a way to include
SchemTron tags
> into .XSD files ?? I found a sample of using SchemTron
tags
> into .XSD(see below), but appears that this is only
valid when
> schematron tags are inside of <xs:annotation>
tag.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm checking out JCam, seems that it's very similar to
SchemaTron.
> XMLBeans support JCam ??
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> <?xml version="1.0"
encoding="UTF-8"?> 
> 
> <xs:schema xmlns="http://www.a
scc.net/xml/schematron" 
> 
>     xmlnss=&qu
ot;http://www.w3.
org/2001/XMLSchema" 
> 
>     targetNamespace="http://www.rafael.com&quo
t;
> elementFormDefault="qualified" 
> 
>     attributeFormDefault="unqualified"> 
> 
>     <xs:annotation> 
> 
>         <xs:appinfo> 
> 
>             <schema xmlns="http://w
ww.ascc.net/xml/schematron"> 
> 
>                 <title>Meds</title> 
> 
>                 <ns uri="http://www.rafael.com&quo
t; prefix="ns"/> 
> 
>                 <pattern
name="Medications"> 
> 
>                     <rule
context="ns:E18"> 
> 
>                         <assert
test="preceding::E18_02"> 
> 
>                             If <name/> is used
you must list the
> Medications listed 
> 
>                         </assert> 
> 
>                         <assert
test="preceding::E18_07"> 
> 
>                             If <name/> is used
you must list the
> patient response 
> 
>                         </assert> 
> 
>                     </rule> 
> 
>                     <rule
context="ns:Header"> 
> 
>                         <report
test="count(ns:Record) > 0"> 
> 
>                             There are <value-of
select =
> "count(ns:HeaderRecord)"/> <name/>

> 
>                         </report> 
> 
>                     </rule> 
> 
>                 </pattern> 
> 
>             </schema> 
> 
>         </xs:appinfo> 
> 
>     </xs:annotation>
> 
>  
> 
> Atenciosamente
> 
> Rafael T. Icibaci
> IBM Middleware EAI Team
> ( + 55 11 2113-7685
> È + 55 11 9299-7840
> * ricibaci_ibmtimbrasil.com.br
> 
> 
>                                    
>
____________________________________________________________
__________
> From: Webber, David (NIH/OD) [C] [mailto:webberdod.nih.gov] 
> Sent: sexta-feira, 6 de abril de 2007 13:02
> To: userxmlbeans.apache.org
> Cc: Rafael Tatsuya Icibaci
> Subject: RE: XMLBeans and SchemaTron
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Rafael,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> If you need content validation services - check out the
latest
> OASIS CAM tool
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  http://www.jcam.org.uk/
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> DW
> 
> 
>  
> 
>                                    
>
____________________________________________________________
__________
> From: Rafael Tatsuya Icibaci
> Sent: Thu 4/5/2007 2:57 PM
> To: userxmlbeans.apache.org
> Subject: XMLBeans and SchemaTron
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone knows if XMLBeans support SchemaTron ? 
> 
> Atenciosamente
> 
> Rafael T. Icibaci
> IBM Middleware EAI Team
> ( + 55 11 2113-7685
> È + 55 11 9299-7840
> * ricibaci_ibmtimbrasil.com.br 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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