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    I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't decide between the schools. Has anybody heard anything about the following schools: University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs University

I work full-time and have a business on the side, so the online will be the only way for me.


What is the opinion from the list?





  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     2007-06-21 13:20:38
  


  

    

  


  

    UofP is a for-profit school, like DeVry or ECPI. Not to say it's bad, but they're not cheap.

Not heard of the others. Is moving out of the question?

WMM

On 6/21/07, 
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I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't decide between the schools. Has anybody heard anything about the following schools: University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs University

I work full-time and have a business on the side, so the online will be the only way for me.


What is the opinion from the list?




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I just heard a co-worker who is working on
his MBA speak glowingly of Keller.&nbsp;  However, he also talked about them being
very expensive.



 

















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I have decided to go for
the MBA, but know I can't decide between the schools. Has anybody heard anything
about the following schools: University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs
University




I work full-time and have a business on the side, so the online will be the
only way for me. 



What is the opinion from the list?











  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     2007-06-21 13:26:32
  


  

    
On 6/21/07, Warren Myers <volcimastergmail.com> wrote:
> UofP is a for-profit school, like DeVry or ECPI. Not to
say it's bad, but
> they're not cheap.
>

U of P will do everything they can to find financial aid
options for
you, though. They really want your business. It helps if the
FT
employer offers an education benefit, too.

Disclaimer: I worked for University of Phoenix Online in the
past. I
have never taken courses from U of P.

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     2007-06-21 13:27:24
  


  

    
I know (from almost teaching there - turned down the offer
as I was
going through their "instructor training") that
UoP is one step away
from a diploma mill. 

Online stuff is nice if it's done well. However, the
teaching paradigm
used in on-line-only doesn't work very well.  

I _strongly_ recommend a real, face-to-face educational
environment. I
understand time pressures but there is no comparison. It's
the
collaborative student/mentor process that makes it all
click.

Of the schools in the metro Atlanta area, most have MBA's.
Emory is very
well respected but the least flexible time wise and most
expensive. Ga.
State has a very flexible time schedule, is affordable
(especially if
it's your dime) and is also very well respected. UGA also
has MBA
offerings using satellite schools. I can't speak to them
other than to
note they exist. The GSU stuff also has some satellite
classrooms as
well (I think).

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> I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't
decide between the
> schools. Has anybody heard anything about the following
schools:
> University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs
University
> 
> I work full-time and have a business on the side, so
the online will
> be the only way for me. 
> 
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     2007-06-21 13:28:14
  


  

    

  AIUOnline.edu is similar to Devry, etc but has a good MBA
program.  Lockstep so
you take just what is needed, one class at a time, 5 weeks
per class.  Not cheap
but fully accredited regionally etc.  Their time
requirements are very realistic
for a working adult but the classes are not just fluff.  If
you give it a chance
you can learn a good bit.


Thus spake Brandon Colbert (colbert.brandongmail.com):

>    I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't
decide between the
>    schools. Has anybody heard anything about the
following schools:
>    University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs
University
> 
>    I work full-time and have a business on the side, so
the online will be
>    the only way for me.
> 
>    What is the opinion from the list?

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     2007-06-21 13:31:31
  


  

    

  


  

    Take a look at Kennesaw State University.  They have a really good MBA program.&nbsp; Try looking at their Executive MBA.  Most classes are on the weekends.

On 6/21/07, 
Alex LeDonne < aledonne.listmailgmail.com">aledonne.listmailgmail.com> wrote:

On 6/21/07, Warren Myers < volcimastergmail.com">volcimastergmail.com> wrote:
>; UofP is a for-profit school, like DeVry or ECPI. Not to say it's bad, but
> they're not cheap.

&gt;

U of P will do everything they can to find financial aid options for
you, though. They really want your business. It helps if the FT
employer offers an education benefit, too.

Disclaimer: I worked for University of Phoenix Online in the past. I

have never taken courses from U of P.

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     2007-06-21 23:32:30
  


  

    
Georgia Tech pushes a technologically-bent MBA program; I
considered it
at one point but chose to go after a more technical advanced
degree
(involving GIS) instead; I was accepted but was unable to
start.

Anyway, see http://mgt.ga
tech.edu/programs/mba.html


James P. Kinney III wrote:
> I know (from almost teaching there - turned down the
offer as I was
> going through their "instructor training")
that UoP is one step away
> from a diploma mill. 
>
> Online stuff is nice if it's done well. However, the
teaching paradigm
> used in on-line-only doesn't work very well.  
>
> I _strongly_ recommend a real, face-to-face educational
environment. I
> understand time pressures but there is no comparison.
It's the
> collaborative student/mentor process that makes it all
click.
>
> Of the schools in the metro Atlanta area, most have
MBA's. Emory is very
> well respected but the least flexible time wise and
most expensive. Ga.
> State has a very flexible time schedule, is affordable
(especially if
> it's your dime) and is also very well respected. UGA
also has MBA
> offerings using satellite schools. I can't speak to
them other than to
> note they exist. The GSU stuff also has some satellite
classrooms as
> well (I think).
>
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:15 -0400, Brandon Colbert
wrote:
>   
>> I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't
decide between the
>> schools. Has anybody heard anything about the
following schools:
>> University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs
University
>>
>> I work full-time and have a business on the side,
so the online will
>> be the only way for me. 
>>
>> What is the opinion from the list?
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     2007-06-22 06:17:36
  


  

    

  


  

    Kaplan University has a good selection of business degree programs.&nbsp; My wife is working on her BS in business accounting.  I just started the BS in information tech. ; The school is accredited and the classes tend to be pretty challenging.


http://www.kaplan.edu/ku/schools/business/default.aspx?School=Business?&MainTab=Program&loc=0


Brian

On 6/22/07, Jeff Hubbs < hbbscomcast.net">hbbscomcast.net> wrote:

Georgia Tech pushes a technologically-bent MBA program; I considered it
at one point but chose to go after a more technical advanced degree
(involving GIS) instead; I was accepted but was unable to start.

Anyway, see 
http://mgt.gatech.edu/programs/mba.html


James P. Kinney III wrote:
>; I know (from almost teaching there - turned down the offer as I was
> going through their "instructor training&quot;) that UoP is one step away

>; from a diploma mill.
>
> Online stuff is nice if it's done well. However, the teaching paradigm
&gt; used in on-line-only doesn't work very well.
>
> I _strongly_ recommend a real, face-to-face educational environment. I

> understand time pressures but there is no comparison. It's the
> collaborative student/mentor process that makes it all click.
>;
> Of the schools in the metro Atlanta area, most have MBA's. Emory is very

>; well respected but the least flexible time wise and most expensive. Ga.
> State has a very flexible time schedule, is affordable (especially if
> it's your dime) and is also very well respected. UGA also has MBA

> offerings using satellite schools. I can't speak to them other than to
> note they exist. The GSU stuff also has some satellite classrooms as
> well (I think).
&gt;
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:15 -0400, Brandon Colbert wrote:

&gt;
>>; I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't decide between the
>&gt; schools. Has anybody heard anything about the following schools:
&gt;> University of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs University

>>
>> I work full-time and have a business on the side, so the online will
>&gt; be the only way for me.
>&gt;
>> What is the opinion from the list?
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    I think I will try WGU because it is non-profit and support by major corporations. It is unique to the online world of schools. I like the fact that all tests are not taken at home, but at a supported Prometric site.


I have talk to upper management where I work, and the advise I got from the VP was, "knowledge is only what you make of it." If you know what you are doing, and have the skills to bring new ideas to a company, know ones is going really question your education.


I do run a small IT consultant company that I am expanding, so that I can hopefully leave the "corporate slave world"; one day. I figure that an MBA will give me the knowledge I need to be make my company successful, and it will make me more marketable in the corporate world. I know zero about accounting and finance, I just started migrated to GNU Cash. LOL.  Although I which GNU Cash was web based, like SQL Ledger.





On 6/22/07, Philip James Smith < philipsmithalumni.albany.edu">philipsmithalumni.albany.edu>; wrote:

Hi Guys:

There have been studies conducted by economists on this very issue. The
results from those studies show that long-term determinants of success
measured in $ terms depend on:

1. the field you choose, and

2. emotional maturity.

I.e., long-term success does not depend on the brand-name of the
diploma. If you look at the membership of the board of directors for
mostly all large "successful"; firms, you'll find that not that many of

them went to an Ivy League School: those people (men and women) have
important real-life experiences and skills that get them there. In fact,
it is often the case that brand-name diplomas come with a quirky stigma:

people who start off life on 3rd base usually don't get off of 3rd base,
and the name of the game eventually changes on them. You've gotta have
it in your heart and head, not written on a piece of paper that you've

hung on the wall. Also, if you grew up in Clayton, GA and have cotton in
your mouth, you've got to think about whether you'd fit in with the
"royals"; that are going to Yale... think of the chances of that!


However, those same studies show that the school you graduate from
influences the 1st few jobs you get... and not much more.

Many quite successful business people are graduates of Valdosta State.


Phil Smith
Duluth, GA

Bob Toxen wrote:
>; It has been my experience (quite a while since college) that the
> school';s reputation in general and in your major is EVERYTHING!
> Factor that in with the cost.

&gt;
> I've never heard of any of those schools.&nbsp; If you had the money Harvard
&gt; or Stanfurd (sic- Stanford/Berkeley rivaly) would be it. &nbsp;Try to find
> an employer that would pay for school and consider GaTech, UGA or, on the

> cheap, Kennesaw.
>
> My $0.02.&nbsp; Btw, that expression comes from first class postage costing
&gt; $0.02 in 1926. ; I came across such a letter visiting my aunt, who gave
> me about $20 worth of opinions.


>
> Bob
>
&gt; On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:15:37PM -0400, Brandon Colbert wrote:
>;
>> I have decided to go for the MBA, but know I can't decide between the
>&gt; schools. Has anybody heard anything about the following schools: University

>> of Phoenix, Argosy, Western Governs University
>>
&gt;
>
&gt;> I work full-time and have a business on the side, so the online will be the
>&gt; only way for me.
>&gt;
>

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    I have talk to upper management where I work, and the advise I got from the VP was, "knowledge is only what you make of it." If you know what you are doing, and have the skills to bring new ideas to a company, know ones is going really question your education. 





I have tended to find that the opposite is true; the reason that I am in college now is that it was pretty close to impossible for me to get a job that I wanted.&nbsp; In many cases, I could only speculate who got the job, but in a few cases, I lost out to someone who had just come out of college with little to no experience or real working knowledge.  This was frustrating to me.





    I do run a small IT consultant company that I am expanding, so that I can hopefully leave the "corporate slave world"; one day. I figure that an MBA will give me the knowledge I need to be make my company successful, and it will make me more marketable in the corporate world. I know zero about accounting and finance, I just started migrated to GNU Cash. LOL.  Although I which GNU Cash was web based, like SQL Ledger. 





I tolerate GnuCash at this point, and I certainly can't figure out SQL Ledger.&nbsp; There are lots of programs out there that fall short of what they should, and others that go way overboard (like SQL Ledger, IMHO; I can see that being useful for a mid- to large-sized business, but not personal finance or even small business).  What's missing is the perfect program.&nbsp; Eventually, though, something will come out that is that perfect, flexible program.




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On the other hand I have found that the
Veep he is talking about is correct.&nbsp;  In my prior life I was an accountant and
rose to the level of Controller of a multi-million dollar business without
having more than 2 years of college or an accounting degree.&nbsp;  In my current
life I’m a highly paid Systems Administrator despite having no technical degree
and am not in management only because I choose not to be so have passed on
requests to move up from employers.  ; If you show a willingness to take on new
tasks and learn new things companies often have a need for that and you can
leverage it the way you want.



 




On the flip side I would say that if you
were getting the MBA as plus for your resume then the schoolR17;s perceived

standing in the world (i.e. have potential employers/bosses ever heard of it?)
does matter.&nbsp;  During the tech bust back in 2001 I was out of work for 5 months
after leaving a job and I often felt that occurred because there were a
plethora of unemployed tech workers in the market.&nbsp;  Employers likely did what
I did once as a manager when faced with dozens of applicants for a job – they started
picking who to interview based on specific factors on the resume.&nbsp; 



e.g.  First get rid of everyone who doesn̵7;t
have experience in the job (the number one factor in most job searches), still
too many resumes – get rid of everyone that doesn̵7;t have a 4 year degree –
still too many get rid of everyone that doesn̵7;t have a degree from a school you’ve
heard of, still too many get rid of the ones that don’t have MBAs etc…



 




Even though you want to run your own
business (good luck) it is a fact that most new businesses fail within the
first 3 years so your MBA may be something you need to fall back on if you
reentered the job market later.&nbsp;  At that point the name/reputation of the
school might make a difference especially if the failure occurred more due to
the economic climate than due to any mismanagement on your part.



 




P.S.  Do MBAs teach Accounting 101?  I
wouldn&#8217;t have thought so – you might want to look at some undergrad

accounting/economics/management classes before starting the MBA even if you’ve
already got a 4 year degree.



 

















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On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 21:28 -0400, Brandon Colbert wrote:







I have talk to upper management where I
work, and the advise I got from the VP was, "knowledge is only what you
make of it." If you know what you are doing, and have the skills to bring
new ideas to a company, know ones is going really question your education. 





I have tended to find that the opposite is true; the reason that I am in
college now is that it was pretty close to impossible for me to get a job that
I wanted.&nbsp; In many cases, I could only speculate who got the job, but in a
few cases, I lost out to someone who had just come out of college with little
to no experience or real working knowledge.  This was frustrating to me.









I do run a small IT consultant company
that I am expanding, so that I can hopefully leave the "corporate slave
world" one day. I figure that an MBA will give me the knowledge I need to
be make my company successful, and it will make me more marketable in the
corporate world. I know zero about accounting and finance, I just started
migrated to GNU Cash. LOL.  Although I which GNU Cash was web based, like
SQL Ledger. 





I tolerate GnuCash at this point, and I certainly can't figure out SQL
Ledger.  There are lots of programs out there that fall short of what they
should, and others that go way overboard (like SQL Ledger, IMHO; I can see that
being useful for a mid- to large-sized business, but not personal finance or
even small business).  What's missing is the perfect program.&nbsp; Eventually, though, something will
come out that is that perfect, flexible program.




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