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2007-06-25 13:37:48 |
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OK that’;s nice to hear but I don’t see how
it addresses the question I asked. I’m not looking for DSL – just local phone
service.
However, since you bring it up – ILEC
companies such as Verizon, Bellsouth, SBC (BS/SBC = AT&T now) were very
often accused of a severe lack of cooperation if not outright sabotage by most
CLECs back when I worked in the Telecom industry. Even the FCC complained
bitterly about their non-compliance with the intent and letter of the
Telecommunications Act – up until you know who appointed cronies after the 2000
election. Many CLECs gave up on the idea because it wasn’;t worth fighting the
battle except for business lines. These huge ILECs were supposed to open up
local markets to competition to be allowed to sell long distance but never
really did in a meaningful way.
From:
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Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:40
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To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT - Non
AT&T landline
I signed up with
Eartlink's DSL/phone bundle back in February. Major mistake. First, it became
nearly impossible to make international calls. Parties on the other end
couldn't hear us. After a few hopeless attempts to resolve that issue, we just
signed up for international service with a provider who could service our cell
phone lines. Second, the phone service would just drop out periodically. When
this happened, I was forced to call their nightmare technical support on my
cell phone. They were always majorly resistant to bringing in a real tech to
troubleshoot the issue. Third, my download speed for DSL was about half what I
was used to. Nobody could ever explain that completely. One guy said that my
earlier connection had probably been through a remote and that BellSouth had
forced them connect all the way back to the switch when I cut over. Maybe.
Fourth, I had billing problems one month and it took about 90 minutes of
explaining and threatening to get them to correct it. At this point, Earthlink
has got to be one of the most poorly run companies in the ISP business. Makes
me sad when I remember what Mindspring used to be. I ended up ditching them
before my contract was done.
On 6/25/07, Jeff
Lightner < jlightner water.com">jlightner water.com>
wrote:
All
the talk about broadband/DSL for AT&T/Bellsouth made me wonder if
anyone on the list is using someone else i s using one of the 3rd
party regular telephone providers and if so whether they would recommend others
to use them.
I'
m not talking about Broadband telephone but rather the regular phone lines
(POTS?). Also not talking about providers like Windstream that own
lines outside of Bellsouth areas – I 'm in a Bellsouth area so wouldn 't
be able to get them unless they also provided the kind of service I 'm talking
about. Basically I' m looking for a CLEC if you know
what that is.
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2007-06-25 17:57:38 |
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I haven't had a home phone line for 2 years. I have 'naked' DSL coming into my residence and I use Vonage and another VOIP solution for a business line.
I use Speakeasy DSL and they have excellent customer service and very rare outages. It is more expensive due to their customer service but it is for business, so it is worth it to have
99.9% uptime and a real live person who gives a damn when you call their support number.
A couple of years ago what the first time that POTS line installation actually went down in the US since Mr. AG Bell invented it. There is a reason.
On 6/25/07, Jeff Lightner < jlightner water.com">jlightner water.com> wrote:
OK that's nice to hear but I don't see how
it addresses the question I asked. I'm not looking for DSL – just local phone
service.
However, since you bring it up – ILEC
companies such as Verizon, Bellsouth, SBC (BS/SBC = AT&T now) were very
often accused of a severe lack of cooperation if not outright sabotage by most
CLECs back when I worked in the Telecom industry. Even the FCC complained
bitterly about their non-compliance with the intent and letter of the
Telecommunications Act – up until you know who appointed cronies after the 2000
election. Many CLECs gave up on the idea because it wasn't worth fighting the
battle except for business lines. These huge ILECs were supposed to open up
local markets to competition to be allowed to sell long distance but never
really did in a meaningful way.
I signed up with
Eartlink's DSL/phone bundle back in February. Major mistake. First, it became
nearly impossible to make international calls. Parties on the other end
couldn't hear us. After a few hopeless attempts to resolve that issue, we just
signed up for international service with a provider who could service our cell
phone lines. Second, the phone service would just drop out periodically. When
this happened, I was forced to call their nightmare technical support on my
cell phone. They were always majorly resistant to bringing in a real tech to
troubleshoot the issue. Third, my download speed for DSL was about half what I
was used to. Nobody could ever explain that completely. One guy said that my
earlier connection had probably been through a remote and that BellSouth had
forced them connect all the way back to the switch when I cut over. Maybe.
Fourth, I had billing problems one month and it took about 90 minutes of
explaining and threatening to get them to correct it. At this point, Earthlink
has got to be one of the most poorly run companies in the ISP business. Makes
me sad when I remember what Mindspring used to be. I ended up ditching them
before my contract was done.
On 6/25/07, Jeff
Lightner < jlightner water.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jlightner water.com>
wrote:
All
the talk about broadband/DSL for AT&T/Bellsouth made me wonder if
anyone on the list is using someone else i s using one of the 3rd
party regular telephone providers and if so whether they would recommend others
to use them.
I'
m not talking about Broadband telephone but rather the regular phone lines
(POTS?). Also not talking about providers like Windstream that own
lines outside of Bellsouth areas – I 'm in a Bellsouth area so wouldn 't
be able to get them unless they also provided the kind of service I 'm talking
about. Basically I' m looking for a CLEC if you know
what that is.
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