Converting to GPLv3

What are the plans for new GPL (version 3) license?
As far as i know, it is possible to re-license Audacity
under the terms 
of GPLv3, because everywhere i see in Audacity and wxWidgets
GPL/LGPL is 
mentioned as "version 2.1 of the License, or (at your
option) any later 
version". I did not inspected every file though, so
there may be a few 
'deviants' with no 'later version' mentioned. These will
require direct 
permission from authors to be re-licensed.
Since Audacity is dealing with various file formats (some of
them may be 
tainted with patents), having more up-to-date license may be
useful. My 
opinion on this is "if there's no obstacles, then
license should be 
updated, even if there is no obvious benefits from
that".

P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about my GSoC FFMpeg
proposal? They 
appeared in the list archive at sourceforge, but i got no
replies and 
got no copies of my own messages (i should, judging from
list options).

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On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 23:40 +0300, LRN wrote:
> P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about my GSoC
FFMpeg proposal? They 
> appeared in the list archive at sourceforge, but i got
no replies and 
> got no copies of my own messages (i should, judging
from list options).

Are you by any chance using GMail's SMTP server? It has some
interesting
bugs/quirks/features, one of which is that mail that you
send from it to
yourself or a list that you're subscribing to will not
appear as a
received mail in the web interface, just as a sent one, and
it will
never get sent out by their POP and IMAP servers (unless you
tell it to
give you _all_ mails, in which case it will also give you
copies of all
mails you have sent to other people).

I "fixed" it by switching back to my ISP's SMTP
server.


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Lars Luthman wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 23:40 +0300, LRN wrote:
>    
>> P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about my GSoC
FFMpeg proposal? They
>> appeared in the list archive at sourceforge, but i
got no replies and
>> got no copies of my own messages (i should, judging
from list options).
>>      
>
> Are you by any chance using GMail's SMTP server? It has
some interesting
> bugs/quirks/features, one of which is that mail that
you send from it to
> yourself or a list that you're subscribing to will not
appear as a
> received mail in the web interface, just as a sent one,
and it will
> never get sent out by their POP and IMAP servers
(unless you tell it to
> give you _all_ mails, in which case it will also give
you copies of all
> mails you have sent to other people).
>
> I "fixed" it by switching back to my ISP's
SMTP server.
>
>    
Yes, i'm using gmail. But you got one message (see
"problems building 
wxWidgets/compiling Audacity") from me. And you got
this message you are 
replied to. And you will get THIS message (i hope). Also, i
used gmail 
with some other mailing lists...though maybe they were
hosted on gmail 
themselves...

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On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 01:45 +0300, LRN wrote:
> Lars Luthman wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 23:40 +0300, LRN wrote:
> >    
> >> P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about my
GSoC FFMpeg proposal? They
> >> appeared in the list archive at sourceforge,
but i got no replies and
> >> got no copies of my own messages (i should,
judging from list options).
> >>      
> >
> > Are you by any chance using GMail's SMTP server?
It has some interesting
> > bugs/quirks/features, one of which is that mail
that you send from it to
> > yourself or a list that you're subscribing to will
not appear as a
> > received mail in the web interface, just as a sent
one, and it will
> > never get sent out by their POP and IMAP servers
(unless you tell it to
> > give you _all_ mails, in which case it will also
give you copies of all
> > mails you have sent to other people).
> >
> > I "fixed" it by switching back to my
ISP's SMTP server.
> >
> >    
> Yes, i'm using gmail. But you got one message (see
"problems building 
> wxWidgets/compiling Audacity") from me. And you
got this message you are 
> replied to. And you will get THIS message (i hope).
Also, i used gmail 
> with some other mailing lists...though maybe they were
hosted on gmail 
> themselves...

I didn't mean that the mails you send using GMail's SMTP
server
disappear completely, they just won't get echoed back to
you. Even if
you send them to a list you subscribe to.

This bug was introduced recently, a few months or weeks ago,
so if you
used other mailing lists before that you wouldn't have seen
it.


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Lars Luthman wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 01:45 +0300, LRN wrote:
>    
>> Lars Luthman wrote:
>>      
>>> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 23:40 +0300, LRN wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about
my GSoC FFMpeg proposal? They
>>>> appeared in the list archive at
sourceforge, but i got no replies and
>>>> got no copies of my own messages (i should,
judging from list options).
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Are you by any chance using GMail's SMTP
server? It has some interesting
>>> bugs/quirks/features, one of which is that mail
that you send from it to
>>> yourself or a list that you're subscribing to
will not appear as a
>>> received mail in the web interface, just as a
sent one, and it will
>>> never get sent out by their POP and IMAP
servers (unless you tell it to
>>> give you _all_ mails, in which case it will
also give you copies of all
>>> mails you have sent to other people).
>>>
>>> I "fixed" it by switching back to my
ISP's SMTP server.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Yes, i'm using gmail. But you got one message (see
"problems building
>> wxWidgets/compiling Audacity") from me. And
you got this message you are
>> replied to. And you will get THIS message (i hope).
Also, i used gmail
>> with some other mailing lists...though maybe they
were hosted on gmail
>> themselves...
>>      
>
> I didn't mean that the mails you send using GMail's
SMTP server
> disappear completely, they just won't get echoed back
to you. Even if
> you send them to a list you subscribe to.
>
> This bug was introduced recently, a few months or weeks
ago, so if you
> used other mailing lists before that you wouldn't have
seen it.
>    
Ah, i see. Well, i'm OK with not receiving my own messages.
Important 
thing is that they get sent to other people. I was concerned
because i 
got no replies.

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GPLv3: Already discussed on -devel 
(http://sourceforge.net/
mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=4697F0FC.8090206%40audacityte
am.org 
and 
http://sourceforge.net/mai
larchive/message.php?msg_id=1184199204.5507.24.camel%40delph
), 
and the current decision is maybe, but not until after we
release 
Audacity 1.4.0.

FFMpeg proposal: I got 2 emails from you yesterday, but not
familiar 
with the issues so didn't comment. My guess is that other
mentors were 
looking for further communication on your app via the
Student Dashboard, 
since that was where it had been previously. But you may
want to cc 
summerofcodeaudacityteam.org (goes to the mentors) if you still
want to 
get email feedback. Clearly, you're doing a lot of work and
thinking 
about the project, and that is excellent!

- Vaughan


LRN wrote:
> What are the plans for new GPL (version 3) license?
> As far as i know, it is possible to re-license Audacity
under the terms 
> of GPLv3, because everywhere i see in Audacity and
wxWidgets GPL/LGPL is 
> mentioned as "version 2.1 of the License, or (at
your option) any later 
> version". I did not inspected every file though,
so there may be a few 
> 'deviants' with no 'later version' mentioned. These
will require direct 
> permission from authors to be re-licensed.
> Since Audacity is dealing with various file formats
(some of them may be 
> tainted with patents), having more up-to-date license
may be useful. My 
> opinion on this is "if there's no obstacles, then
license should be 
> updated, even if there is no obvious benefits from
that".
>
> P.S. anyone got my previous e-mails about my GSoC
FFMpeg proposal? They 
> appeared in the list archive at sourceforge, but i got
no replies and 
> got no copies of my own messages (i should, judging
from list options).
>
>   

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