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Re: GSoc project idea.
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2008-03-29 23:32:42
Great. Thanks for the follow up and going ahead with the
application. 
I'll take a look at it tomorrow. We can discuss the file
management 
later (after Monday!).

Thanks,
Vaughan


Abhishek Batra wrote:
> Hey Vaughan
>
> I realized myself that the deadline for submission of
the proposal is 
> near,
> so I applied. Please excuse me for not joining the irc
channel, which 
> I won't
> be able to for a few days.
>
> I have addressed the issue regarding development of a
more efficient 
> algorithm
> for use in real time in my proposal. The idea is to use
Bayesian 
> learning techniques
> so that the actual real time processing is optimized by
maintaining 
> profiles
> for different sound sources.
>
> As far as the question about the infrastructural
changes goes, I 
> believe that it would
> require changes to the GUI as well as the playback
mechanism. A 
> possible solution
> is to pipe the edited sound input for playback. But
this will still 
> need a lot of
> work since smooth playback could be hindered by this
playback, 
> although I believe that
> it is still worth the effort.
>
> And finally, regarding the file management idea, it
just came to me as 
> an afterthought
> and right now I haven't done any groundwork for it. I
won't be able to 
> work on that as a
> GSoC project but I'm willing to work one it
nonetheless.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> On 29/03/2008, *Vaughan Johnson* <vaughanaudacityteam.org 
> <mailto:vaughanaudacityteam.org>> wrote:
>
>     Abhishek, thanks for following up. Please do
remember to reply-all to
>     include summerofcodeaudacityteam.org
>     <mailto:summerofcodeaudacityteam.org>, so
the other mentors can
>     comment.
>     I'm also cc-ing audacity-devel, which you should
join, in case
>     non-mentors have comments.
>
>     Again, we'll need lots more details. I didn't
really get an answer to
>     the whole infrastructure for real-time question.
And if the
>     overlapping
>     features are already mostly better in Audacity, why
not convert
>     those to
>     real-time. And regarding file management, that
seems like a very
>     different project, so please explain more what you
mean. Note that the
>     deadline for the application is the UTC/GMT end of
March 31. Your
>     application will need lots more details than we've
seen so far.
>
>     Great that you're interested in working on Audacity
past GSoC, too.
>
>
>     Thanks,
>     Vaughan
>
>
>     Abhishek Batra wrote:
>
>     > I forgot to include this in my last mail. I
also wanted to work
>     on adding
>     > a file management feature to audacity (
maintaining a library ).
>     >
>     > Please let me know your views on the idea.
>     >
>     > On 29/03/2008, *Abhishek Batra*
<abhshk.btragmail.com
>     <mailto:abhshk.btragmail.com>
>
>     > <mailto:abhshk.btragmail.com
<mailto:abhshk.btragmail.com>>>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi Vaughan,
>     >
>     >     As my project is just a bunch of
algorithms, I would like to
>     >     integrate it
>     >     into audacity just as a few real time
effects. And I do
>     agree that
>     >     it is
>     >     not possible to simulate all effects real
time. By rule,
>     there is
>     >     always a
>     >     lag / delay between the two sounds ( that
depends on the machine
>     >     as well as
>     >     the os ).
>     >
>     >     As far as the conversion of the code from
c++ to python is
>     concerned,
>     >     that won't be a problem, as initially it
was all in c++. The
>     >     overlapping features
>     >     though they aren't as technically sound as
implemented in
>     audacity
>     >     ( except
>     >     echo, for which the code is similar ) the
fact that I have
>     >     implemented them to
>     >     be used on the fly makes it worth to add
them.
>     >
>     >     And I would surely love to work with
audacity beyond GSoC, for
>     >     making other
>     >     effects real time, and even otherwise.
>     >
>     >     PS: Apologies for the late reply; it was
5:52 am in the morning,
>     >     and I had dozed off 
>     >
>     >     Hoping for a favorable reply
>     >
>     >     On 29/03/2008, *Vaughan Johnson*
<vaughanaudacityteam.org
>     <mailto:vaughanaudacityteam.org>
>
>     >     <mailto:vaughanaudacityteam.org
>     <mailto:vaughanaudacityteam.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         Further thoughts:
>     >
>     >         How much of the effort would be in
converting from
>     Python to C++?
>     >
>     >         How would the effects that overlap
Audacity (echo,
>     reverb, eq)
>     >         compare
>     >         to the current ones? In other words,
are all your features
>     >         worth porting?
>     >
>     >         Thanks,
>     >
>     >         V
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >         Vaughan Johnson wrote:
>     >         > Thanks for your interest. We'll
need more information.
>     How do
>     >         you plan
>     >         > to integrate this into Audacity,
as an effect? Real-time
>     >         processing,
>     >         > is something we're interested in
for other effects, too
>     >         (although not
>     >         > possible for all effects), e.g.,
>     >         >
>     http://audacityteam.org/wiki/
index.php?title=ArchitecturalDesign#Real_Time_Ability.
>     >         >
>     >         >
>     >         > If your project is simply to
convert an existing chunk of
>     >         code into an
>     >         > effect, that might be too small a
project, so please
>     describe it
>     >         > further. But it would require
some infrastructure changes
>     >         (e.g., all
>     >         > effects are simply turned off
during playback now),
>     and let
>     >         us know if
>     >         > you'd be interested in working
further on making other
>     effects be
>     >         > real-time.
>     >         >
>     >         > Thanks,
>     >         > Vaughan
>     >         >
>     >         >
>     >         > Abhishek Batra wrote:
>     >         >>
>     >         >> I have been working on a
project independently. It is a
>     >         sound processor
>     >         >> ( coded in python ). A
version of it has already been
>     >         demonstrated in
>     >         >> Birla Institute of Technology
and Sciences' tech fest in
>     >         2007. Though it
>     >         >> is currently just for win32,
I have been working on
>     >         development for
>     >         >> other
>     >         >> platforms.
>     >         >>
>     >         >> The most important feature of
my project is that it
>     has the
>     >         capability
>     >         >> of  processing sound on the
fly. Hence. mixing of various
>     >         media is
>     >         >> possible. Other features/
effects that it supports are:
>     >         Distortion,
>     >         >> feedback effects, echo,
reverb and equalization
>     >         >>
>     >         >> I am fluent with c++ and
python, and in general with
>     algorithms.
>     >         >>
>     >         >> I'll be grateful if someone
could help me out with
>     the final
>     >         proposal
>     >         >> if this
>     >         >> sounds good.
>     >         >> --
>     >         >> Abhishek
>     >         >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Abhishek
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Abhishek
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Abhishek 

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