Re: question -Paul

Hi Steve,
Thank you for this advice. I didn't know about the
"Effects:Amplify"
function.
Often the functions are greyed out.
I agree with you about recording at a louder level in the
first place,
but I don't think my Eon USB turntable has that facility. I
shall check.

Talking about functions being greyed out, after completing a
recording I
seem unable to save the recording. All the settings are
greyed out,
including the save function. At the moment, having made a
recording, I
press the exit X and then I am invited to save the file. I
do this and
it throws me out. Then I have to go back in and find the
saved file.
This can't be right but it seems to work.

Anyway, thanks for your advice.
Regards,
Paul

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From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net] On
Behalf Of
Steven Taylor
Sent: 10 October 2007 16:37
To: Discussion list for Audacity users
Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question -Paul

Paul,

Other than the sound level being lower, is the sound quality
OK? Maybe
you just need to adjust the input recording level higher.
Just be
careful not to set it so high that you go into the red zone
on the input
level meter.  
That will cause clipping which will sound awful. You have to
determine
the loudest part of the recording and preset the input level
at that
point.  
Then go back and record the whole thing.

The second best alternative is to use the
"amplify" function in Audacity
after you have recorded the LP. Do a "Edit:Select
All" and then
"Effects:Amplify" to bring it up to the 0db level.
That should make the
sound level equivalent to CDs. It is really preferable to
get the input
level setting correct first so that you don't have to use
the amplify
function. You will get a better S/N ratio and more detail in
the lower
levels by doing so.

Steve


On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:15:13 -0700, Josh Scott
<duck19882003yahoo.com>
wrote:

> The reason why I have not answered your question is
because I am not 
> that familiar with vinyl records.
> --- Paul.Normanskanska.co.uk wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon,
>> How is it that this lady is getting your attention
but my question 
>> goes unanswered ?
>>
>> I have Audacity and I am transferring vinyl records
across to the 
>> I-music list (for my Ipod) to sit alongside the CDs
which I have 
>> loaded directly. However, the volume of the songs
when played back is

>> much quieter than the loaded CDs.
>> Am I missing something ?
>> Should I have adjusted the Audacity file in some
way before 
>> transferring it ?
>> Regards,
>> Paul Norman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>>
> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Brenda Dyck
>> Sent: 10 October 2007 15:30
>> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>>
>> 	I have a cord that plugs into the stereo, and the
other end
plugs 
>> into the computer. I'm not sure what a computer
interface is--I just 
>> know that this works.  I am taking an online
medical transcription 
>> course and I have to download the dictation files,
and then listen to

>> them while I am transcribing them.  So, I would
want to play 
>> something other than the audio that I'm recording.
>> 	If this will would work, could I turn the sound
down on the 
>> cassettes to be recorded without damaging the sound
I'm putting on 
>> the CD, and have the sound on for the dictations?
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>> Genealogists never lose their job...they just go to
another branch!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>>
> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net]On
>> Behalf Of Josh
>> Scott
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:18 PM
>> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>>
>>
>> How are you bring the audio into the computer?
Line
>> in or Mic? Or are
>> you using a computer interface? What are you
wanting
>> to playback, the
>> audio coming in, or something different?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Josh
>> --- Brenda Dyck <brendasmts.net> wrote:
>>
>> > 	I am using Windows XP.  What else do you need
to
>> know?
>> (Sorry--I
>> > really don't know what you mean by my setup.)
>> >
>> > Brenda
>> >
>> > Genealogists never lose their job...they just
go
>> to another branch!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
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>> >
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>> > Behalf Of Josh
>> > Scott
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:42 PM
>> > To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>> > Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>> >
>> >
>> > Brenda,
>> > In order to help you, we need to know your
setup.
>> I
>> > some cases, yes you can do both ( I have); in
>> other
>> > cases, no you can't.
>> >
>> > Josh
>> > --- Brenda Dyck <brendasmts.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > 	Can I record a cassette using Audacity
while I
>> am
>> > > listening to something
>> > > else?  I need to transcribe some audio
medical
>> > > files--can I do this at the
>> > > same time?
>> > >
>> > > Brenda
>> > >
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Select (highlight) the entire track, 
or just a portion, and the functions 
should be made available....

BG
<scalemodeleralltel.net>

Paul.Normanskanska.co.uk wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Thank you for this advice. I didn't know about the
"Effects:Amplify"
> function.
> Often the functions are greyed out.
> I agree with you about recording at a louder level in
the first place,
> but I don't think my Eon USB turntable has that
facility. I shall check.
> 
> Talking about functions being greyed out, after
completing a recording I
> seem unable to save the recording. All the settings are
greyed out,
> including the save function. At the moment, having made
a recording, I
> press the exit X and then I am invited to save the
file. I do this and
> it throws me out. Then I have to go back in and find
the saved file.
> This can't be right but it seems to work.
> 
> Anyway, thanks for your advice.
> Regards,
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net] On
Behalf Of
> Steven Taylor
> Sent: 10 October 2007 16:37
> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question -Paul
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Other than the sound level being lower, is the sound
quality OK? Maybe
> you just need to adjust the input recording level
higher. Just be
> careful not to set it so high that you go into the red
zone on the input
> level meter.  
> That will cause clipping which will sound awful. You
have to determine
> the loudest part of the recording and preset the input
level at that
> point.  
> Then go back and record the whole thing.
> 
> The second best alternative is to use the
"amplify" function in Audacity
> after you have recorded the LP. Do a "Edit:Select
All" and then
> "Effects:Amplify" to bring it up to the 0db
level. That should make the
> sound level equivalent to CDs. It is really preferable
to get the input
> level setting correct first so that you don't have to
use the amplify
> function. You will get a better S/N ratio and more
detail in the lower
> levels by doing so.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:15:13 -0700, Josh Scott
<duck19882003yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> The reason why I have not answered your question is
because I am not 
>> that familiar with vinyl records.
>> --- Paul.Normanskanska.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> How is it that this lady is getting your
attention but my question 
>>> goes unanswered ?
>>>
>>> I have Audacity and I am transferring vinyl
records across to the 
>>> I-music list (for my Ipod) to sit alongside the
CDs which I have 
>>> loaded directly. However, the volume of the
songs when played back is
> 
>>> much quieter than the loaded CDs.
>>> Am I missing something ?
>>> Should I have adjusted the Audacity file in
some way before 
>>> transferring it ?
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul Norman
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>>>
>> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> Brenda Dyck
>>> Sent: 10 October 2007 15:30
>>> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>>> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>>>
>>> 	I have a cord that plugs into the stereo, and
the other end
> plugs 
>>> into the computer. I'm not sure what a computer
interface is--I just 
>>> know that this works.  I am taking an online
medical transcription 
>>> course and I have to download the dictation
files, and then listen to
> 
>>> them while I am transcribing them.  So, I would
want to play 
>>> something other than the audio that I'm
recording.
>>> 	If this will would work, could I turn the
sound down on the 
>>> cassettes to be recorded without damaging the
sound I'm putting on 
>>> the CD, and have the sound on for the
dictations?
>>>
>>> Brenda
>>>
>>> Genealogists never lose their job...they just
go to another branch!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>>>
>> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net]On
>>> Behalf Of Josh
>>> Scott
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:18 PM
>>> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>>> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>>>
>>>
>>> How are you bring the audio into the computer?
Line
>>> in or Mic? Or are
>>> you using a computer interface? What are you
wanting
>>> to playback, the
>>> audio coming in, or something different?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>> --- Brenda Dyck <brendasmts.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 	I am using Windows XP.  What else do you
need to
>>> know?
>>> (Sorry--I
>>>> really don't know what you mean by my
setup.)
>>>>
>>>> Brenda
>>>>
>>>> Genealogists never lose their job...they
just go
>>> to another branch!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>>>>
>> [mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net]On
>>>> Behalf Of Josh
>>>> Scott
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:42 PM
>>>> To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>>>> Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brenda,
>>>> In order to help you, we need to know your
setup.
>>> I
>>>> some cases, yes you can do both ( I have);
in
>>> other
>>>> cases, no you can't.
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>> --- Brenda Dyck <brendasmts.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 	Can I record a cassette using Audacity
while I
>>> am
>>>>> listening to something
>>>>> else?  I need to transcribe some audio
medical
>>>>> files--can I do this at the
>>>>> same time?
>>>>>
>>>>> Brenda
>>>>>
>>>>> Genealogists never lose their
job...they just go
>>>> to
>>>>> another branch!
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authenticity I
>>>> would unhesitatingly give
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Paul,

Yes, the effects menu is greyed out until you select
something. I don't  
know if the Ion has an output level control, but Audacity
has an input  
level control. It is the slider with what looks like a
microphone to the  
left of it. With an LP playing, click on the input level
meter and you  
will see the recording level indicators flickering up and
down. Then play  
with the input level slider and you will see that you can
control how high  
the recording level goes. If the level goes above 0db, a red
bar shows up  
at the extreme right of the meter bar. You don't want that
to ever happen,  
so reduce the level to ensure that it doesn't go that high
at the loudest  
peak of the recording. The red bar indicator is sticky so
that is will  
stay "on" if the level ever gets that high. You
can reset it by clicking  
on the meter.

After you click the stop button after recording something,
what options  
are not greyed out of the file menu? You should have several
functions  
including "save" and multiple "export"
options. What version of Audacity  
are you using and on what operating system?

Steve


On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:51:20 -0700, <Paul.Normanskanska.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> Thank you for this advice. I didn't know about the
"Effects:Amplify"
> function.
> Often the functions are greyed out.
> I agree with you about recording at a louder level in
the first place,
> but I don't think my Eon USB turntable has that
facility. I shall check.
>
> Talking about functions being greyed out, after
completing a recording I
> seem unable to save the recording. All the settings are
greyed out,
> including the save function. At the moment, having made
a recording, I
> press the exit X and then I am invited to save the
file. I do this and
> it throws me out. Then I have to go back in and find
the saved file.
> This can't be right but it seems to work.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your advice.
> Regards,
> Paul
>
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Paul,

Another possible solution is to use Effects:Normalize. If
you are 
recording LP's a side at a time, this would find the peak
for the 
entire side and take it to 100%, or whatever % of max you
choose. 
This would preserve the musical integrity of the side, so
that the 
loudest point of side A is still that, with all other levels

increased in direct proportion.

Or, if you want to just rock out and make each song more
clearly 
heard in the car, try Normalize on each song. It will
probably depend 
on the type of music and your own personal tastes.

Good luck, and please keep us informed of your best
solution. LP 
transfer seems to be a popular subject for posts, as does
USB 
turntables.

>Hi Steve,
>Thank you for this advice. I didn't know about the
"Effects:Amplify"
>function.
>Often the functions are greyed out.
>I agree with you about recording at a louder level in
the first place,
>but I don't think my Eon USB turntable has that
facility. I shall check.
>
>Talking about functions being greyed out, after
completing a recording I
>seem unable to save the recording. All the settings are
greyed out,
>including the save function. At the moment, having made
a recording, I
>press the exit X and then I am invited to save the file.
I do this and
>it throws me out. Then I have to go back in and find the
saved file.
>This can't be right but it seems to work.
>
>Anyway, thanks for your advice.
>Regards,
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net
>[mailto:audacity-users-bounceslists.sourceforge.net] On
Behalf Of
>Steven Taylor
>Sent: 10 October 2007 16:37
>To: Discussion list for Audacity users
>Subject: Re: [Audacity-users] question -Paul
>
>Paul,
>
>Other than the sound level being lower, is the sound
quality OK? Maybe
>you just need to adjust the input recording level
higher. Just be
>careful not to set it so high that you go into the red
zone on the input
>level meter. 
>That will cause clipping which will sound awful. You
have to determine
>the loudest part of the recording and preset the input
level at that
>point. 
>Then go back and record the whole thing.
>
>The second best alternative is to use the
"amplify" function in Audacity
>after you have recorded the LP. Do a "Edit:Select
All" and then
>"Effects:Amplify" to bring it up to the 0db
level. That should make the
>sound level equivalent to CDs. It is really preferable
to get the input
>level setting correct first so that you don't have to
use the amplify
>function. You will get a better S/N ratio and more
detail in the lower
>levels by doing so.
>
>Steve
>


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