jhalfs (all versions) and HLFS

Manuel,

   The latest version of HLFS (SVN-20060726) cannot be built
with the 
HLFS branch of jhalfs. Drastic changes were made to the
book's build 
method and will require significant rework of the script.

   It will take a few days to read the book and make the
appropriate 
changes to the script.. I will do the work on the
'experimental' branch 
first.

   G.
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I'm sorry about this, it wasn't good timing, considering
your release. The 
hlfs-svn book is not known to actually work yet. It was
committed to help 
find bugs faster, with user feedback. I suggest you use the
version from the 
17th of July for now. 

robert

On July 26, 2006 10:29 pm, George Boudreau wrote:
> Manuel,
>
>    The latest version of HLFS (SVN-20060726) cannot be
built with the
> HLFS branch of jhalfs. Drastic changes were made to the
book's build
> method and will require significant rework of the
script.
>
>    It will take a few days to read the book and make
the appropriate
> changes to the script.. I will do the work on the
'experimental' branch
> first.
>
>    G.
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Robert Connolly wrote:
> I'm sorry about this, it wasn't good timing,
considering your release. The 
> hlfs-svn book is not known to actually work yet. It was
committed to help 
> find bugs faster, with user feedback. I suggest you use
the version from the 
> 17th of July for now. 
> 
   It's not a problem Robert. I am making changes to
accommodate your 
new method now. I knew this was coming down the pipe and
should have 
been on the ball. The only ugly bits are the toolchain
names. I have to 
map them to the gcc and binutils packages, it will take a
few days to 
sort this out.

   question 1.. how long does it take to build the embryo,
cocoon and 
butterfly stages. (embryo is running in the back ground)
   question 2.. is there any technical reason you use
separate packages 
for gcc-core and gcc-g++ ..

> robert
> 
> On July 26, 2006 10:29 pm, George Boudreau wrote:
>> Manuel,
>>
>>    The latest version of HLFS (SVN-20060726) cannot
be built with the
>> HLFS branch of jhalfs. Drastic changes were made to
the book's build
>> method and will require significant rework of the
script.
>>
>>    It will take a few days to read the book and
make the appropriate
>> changes to the script.. I will do the work on the
'experimental' branch
>> first.
>>
>>    G.

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On July 26, 2006 11:11 pm, George Boudreau wrote:
> Robert Connolly wrote:
> > I'm sorry about this, it wasn't good timing,
considering your release.
> > The hlfs-svn book is not known to actually work
yet. It was committed to
> > help find bugs faster, with user feedback. I
suggest you use the version
> > from the 17th of July for now.
>
>    It's not a problem Robert. I am making changes to
accommodate your
> new method now. I knew this was coming down the pipe
and should have
> been on the ball. The only ugly bits are the toolchain
names. I have to
> map them to the gcc and binutils packages, it will take
a few days to
> sort this out.
>
>    question 1.. how long does it take to build the
embryo, cocoon and
> butterfly stages. (embryo is running in the back
ground)

18-20 sbu for embryo. About 4 sbu for cocoon and butterfly.

>    question 2.. is there any technical reason you use
separate packages
> for gcc-core and gcc-g++ ..

No. You can use the big gcc tarball. HLFS doesn't currently
support the extra 
languages like ada and java.

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Robert Connolly wrote:
> On July 26, 2006 11:11 pm, George Boudreau wrote:
>> Robert Connolly wrote:
<snip>
>>
>>    question 1.. how long does it take to build the
embryo, cocoon and
>> butterfly stages. (embryo is running in the back
ground)
> 
> 18-20 sbu for embryo. About 4 sbu for cocoon and
butterfly.
   ok.. it took 45m for embryo
   died looking for the headers patch.. will pick it out of
your dir..
> 
>>    question 2.. is there any technical reason you
use separate packages
>> for gcc-core and gcc-g++ ..
> 
> No. You can use the big gcc tarball. HLFS doesn't
currently support the extra 
> languages like ada and java.
> 
   ok.. not a real issue just curious.
> robert
> 

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El Jueves, 27 de Julio de 2006 04:29, George Boudreau
escribió:
> Manuel,
>
>    The latest version of HLFS (SVN-20060726) cannot be
built with the
> HLFS branch of jhalfs. Drastic changes were made to the
book's build
> method and will require significant rework of the
script.

No problem.

Adding now a note to SupportedBooks to adress that.

>    It will take a few days to read the book and make
the appropriate
> changes to the script.. I will do the work on the
'experimental' branch
> first.

I will have more free time from the next week, thus I will
can work also at 
that and other issues 

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Manuel,

M.Canales.es wrote:
> El Jueves, 27 de Julio de 2006 04:29, George Boudreau
escribió:
>> Manuel,
>>
>>    The latest version of HLFS (SVN-20060726) cannot
be built with the
>> HLFS branch of jhalfs. Drastic changes were made to
the book's build
>> method and will require significant rework of the
script.
<snip>
> 
> I will have more free time from the next week, thus I
will can work also at 
> that and other issues 
> 
I have most of the work done to HLFS necessary to
accommodate the new 
book design.. I also took the time to rework the internals
of 
./HLFS/master.sh and revert the user account back to hlfs
from lfs.

  So far only one serious question. (xsl of course) This
piece of the 
book does not parsed correctly... there is a new contruct
<literal condition=$model   ..... /literal> which is
suppose to select 
which loader to use. I am assuming hlfs.xsl sorts this out
as the 
rendered book looks ok.

chaps 5.9 cocoon toolchain and  6.12 butterfyl toolchain

<screen><userinput>../cocoon-toolchain/configure
--prefix=/tools \
....
     --with-dynamic-linker=/tools/lib/
<literal
condition="glibc">ld-linux.so.2</literal&g
t;
<literal
condition="uclibc">ld-uClibc.so.0</literal
> --with-nostdinc \
     --with-lib-path=/tools/lib --disable-libstdcxx-pch \
     --enable-checking
--enable-werror-always</userinput></screen>
....
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El Jueves, 27 de Julio de 2006 22:42, George Boudreau
escribió:

> ....
>      --with-dynamic-linker=/tools/lib/
> <literal
condition="glibc">ld-linux.so.2</literal&g
t;
> <literal
condition="uclibc">ld-uClibc.so.0</literal
> --with-nostdinc \
>      --with-lib-path=/tools/lib --disable-libstdcxx-pch
\
>      --enable-checking
--enable-werror-always</userinput></screen>
> ....

Try adding this to hlfs.xsl:

  <xsl:template match="literal">
    <xsl:if test="condition=$model or
not(condition)>
      <xsl:apply-templates/>
    </xsl:if>
  </xsl:template>

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M.Canales.es wrote:
> El Jueves, 27 de Julio de 2006 22:42, George Boudreau
escribió:
> 
>> ....
>>      --with-dynamic-linker=/tools/lib/
>> <literal
condition="glibc">ld-linux.so.2</literal&g
t;
>> <literal
condition="uclibc">ld-uClibc.so.0</literal
> --with-nostdinc \
>>      --with-lib-path=/tools/lib
--disable-libstdcxx-pch \
>>      --enable-checking
--enable-werror-always</userinput></screen>
>> ....
> 
> Try adding this to hlfs.xsl:
> 
>   <xsl:template match="literal">
>     <xsl:if test="condition=$model or
not(condition)>
>       <xsl:apply-templates/>
>     </xsl:if>
>   </xsl:template>
   missing a <"> but it works great, thanks. 
Now to sort out a 
cocoon-toolchain issue. Is it jhalfs or the book??
> 

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El Jueves, 27 de Julio de 2006 23:07, George Boudreau
escribió:

>   Now to sort out a
> cocoon-toolchain issue. Is it jhalfs or the book??

I'm taking a look at the new book now. 

Noticed that the new toolchain pages are combining the
packages from the top 
dir. Thus, for that scripts we must to start into the
sources/ directory, not 
in $PKGDIR.

That could be fixed via the XSL or, for now, using a sed.


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