Re: ALFS shortcomings

Rumor has it that Jeremy Huntwork may have mentioned these
words:
>M.Canales.es wrote:
> > Thus, if making the progress bar optional, maybe
the full make output 
> should
> > be optional (or redirected to a log file) to allow
users to do a " cd
> > $JHALFSDIR && make &".
>
>Yes, that could work.

Having just gotten back into working with LFS on my new
(refurb) dual-core 
Turion lappy, I thought I'd really like the progress bar,
until it hit 
100%, wrapped around & started over. That's when I
figured out (correct me 
if I'm wrong) that it doesn't show the status of the package
being built, 
it's just a graphical second count-off timer... am I right?

That being the case, I like having the time roll to show how
long it's been 
working on a particular package, but if the progress bar
doesn't show the 
actual progress of the package, it's just fluff to me.

Just IMHO from the village idiot... 

Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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El Jueves, 20 de Septiembre de 2007 20:01, Roger Merchberger
escribió:

> Having just gotten back into working with LFS on my new
(refurb) dual-core
> Turion lappy, I thought I'd really like the progress
bar, until it hit
> 100%, wrapped around & started over. That's when I
figured out (correct me
> if I'm wrong) that it doesn't show the status of the
package being built,
> it's just a graphical second count-off timer... am I
right?

Yes, it's only a time counter. 

We can't know beforehand how many time a package build will
take on a 
particular machine, thus there is no proper way, at least
that I know, to 
draw an actual status bar :-/

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Rumor has it that M.Canales.es may have mentioned these
words:
>El Jueves, 20 de Septiembre de 2007 20:01, Roger
Merchberger escribió:
>
> > Having just gotten back into working with LFS on
my new (refurb) dual-core
> > Turion lappy, I thought I'd really like the
progress bar, until it hit
> > 100%, wrapped around & started over. That's
when I figured out (correct me
> > if I'm wrong) that it doesn't show the status of
the package being built,
> > it's just a graphical second count-off timer... am
I right?
>
>Yes, it's only a time counter.
>
>We can't know beforehand how many time a package build
will take on a
>particular machine, thus there is no proper way, at
least that I know, to
>draw an actual status bar :-/

What follows is an academic discussion, I certainly am not
proposing anyone 
(including myself) actually do all this work... 

If my boss told me[1] I _had_ to build in a working progress
counter, I'd 
approach the "problem" this way:

For larger processes with many steps / commands... say 20,
issue each step 
a 5% complete status, and update the bar at each step...

If it was a long process with only a few steps, if the
application had 
access to the process logging, one could tee & grep the
logs & when certain 
"milestones" were reached one could update the
progress bar.

If it were a very short process (less than 30 seconds or so
on a slowish 
machine) I wouldn't even bother... I'd just put a status
line of "This 
should be done very soon."

Again, this is just academic blathering... 

Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger

[1] Please note: if I had a boss that told me that, I'd
still ask him if it 
was worth that much work for what little (any?) benefit...

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