Banshee and the OpenMoko

If I understand banshee right, it is designed so that
various
interfaces can be placed on top of it and various engines
can be put
below it. I'm also seeing that there is an interest in
running .net[1]
on the OpenMoko[2]. so I'm thinking it would be easy enough
to create
an interface that would run, perhaps on the Helix backend.
I
understand Helix is a common embedded device product. Then
an
interface could be put together with perhaps an appropriate
radio
plugin and we'd have banshee for this cool cell phone and
also
providing ip radio.

To be sure, this is a long way from fruition. The .net
implementation
for OpenMoko is still in the planning stage, but I'd like to
see
banshee break into its potential to have other interfaces on
top of
it. I really like the current one, but why not spread the
beauty out
to OpenMoko or KDE or Vista?

So how big a project would that really be? Is the ease of
this porting
all in my head? Being a non-programmer, I'm likely missing
many issues
that would have to be faced, but it sounds like an
interesting project
for someone with interest in embedded stuff and C#/Mono.

JSR/

[1]  http://
projects.openmoko.org/projects/dotnet/
[2]  http://openmoko.org/
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On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 13:23 -0500, Josiah Ritchie wrote:
> If I understand banshee right, it is designed so that
various
> interfaces can be placed on top of it and various
engines can be put
> below it. I'm also seeing that there is an interest in
running .net[1]
> on the OpenMoko[2]. so I'm thinking it would be easy
enough to create
> an interface that would run, perhaps on the Helix
backend. I
> understand Helix is a common embedded device product.
Then an
> interface could be put together with perhaps an
appropriate radio
> plugin and we'd have banshee for this cool cell phone
and also
> providing ip radio.
> 
> To be sure, this is a long way from fruition. The .net
implementation
> for OpenMoko is still in the planning stage, but I'd
like to see
> banshee break into its potential to have other
interfaces on top of
> it. I really like the current one, but why not spread
the beauty out
> to OpenMoko or KDE or Vista?
> 
> So how big a project would that really be? Is the ease
of this porting
> all in my head? Being a non-programmer, I'm likely
missing many issues
> that would have to be faced, but it sounds like an
interesting project
> for someone with interest in embedded stuff and
C#/Mono.

Banshee should be portable, but I'm afraid nobody of us has
an OpenMoko.
I'd be willing to hack on it though, would be a great test
for our
codebase.

    Ruben


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On 2/19/07, Ruben Vermeersch <rubensavanne.be> wrote:
> Banshee should be portable, but I'm afraid nobody of us
has an OpenMoko.
> I'd be willing to hack on it though, would be a great
test for our
> codebase.

I am definitely interested in getting Banshee to run on the
Neo1973,
and I am in the developer program so I'll get a phone in a
few weeks.
I'm definitely not an expert in everything that will be
needed to get
it running, so coordinating with others would be great.  For
an
example of implementing an alternative frontend to Banshee,
look in
src/Core/Banshee.Hyena/.

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On 2/19/07, Ruben Vermeersch <rubensavanne.be> wrote:

> Banshee should be portable, but I'm afraid nobody of us
has an OpenMoko.
> I'd be willing to hack on it though, would be a great
test for our
> codebase.

Don't they have a development platform or something that can
be used
to hack on it without the phone?

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On 2/19/07, Gabriel Burt <gabriel.burtgmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/19/07, Ruben Vermeersch <rubensavanne.be> wrote:
> > Banshee should be portable, but I'm afraid nobody
of us has an OpenMoko.
> > I'd be willing to hack on it though, would be a
great test for our
> > codebase.
>
> I am definitely interested in getting Banshee to run on
the Neo1973,
> and I am in the developer program so I'll get a phone
in a few weeks.
> I'm definitely not an expert in everything that will be
needed to get
> it running, so coordinating with others would be great.
 For an
> example of implementing an alternative frontend to
Banshee, look in
> src/Core/Banshee.Hyena/.

Awesome!  I'm
looking forward to picking up a Neo1073 once they are
available for the general public.

I like the idea of banshee on a touchscreen. 

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On 2/19/07, Josiah Ritchie <josiah.ritchiegmail.com> wrote:
> Don't they have a development platform or something
that can be used
> to hack on it without the phone?

Yes, see http://openmoko.org/

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Hey! Nice to see someone else on both of these lists.

I've been on the openmoko list since the early days and
think it is a very
exciting project. It would be great to see applications like
Banshee working
on it and getting involved.

The openmoko mailing list (there are actually about 5 or so)
is very active
and helpful and interesting. I encourage interested parties
here to give that
project a look.

Michael



On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Josiah Ritchie wrote:

> If I understand banshee right, it is designed so that
various
> interfaces can be placed on top of it and various
engines can be put
> below it. I'm also seeing that there is an interest in
running .net[1]
> on the OpenMoko[2]. so I'm thinking it would be easy
enough to create
> an interface that would run, perhaps on the Helix
backend. I
> understand Helix is a common embedded device product.
Then an
> interface could be put together with perhaps an
appropriate radio
> plugin and we'd have banshee for this cool cell phone
and also
> providing ip radio.
>
> To be sure, this is a long way from fruition. The .net
implementation
> for OpenMoko is still in the planning stage, but I'd
like to see
> banshee break into its potential to have other
interfaces on top of
> it. I really like the current one, but why not spread
the beauty out
> to OpenMoko or KDE or Vista?
>
> So how big a project would that really be? Is the ease
of this porting
> all in my head? Being a non-programmer, I'm likely
missing many issues
> that would have to be faced, but it sounds like an
interesting project
> for someone with interest in embedded stuff and
C#/Mono.
>
> JSR/
>
> [1]  http://
projects.openmoko.org/projects/dotnet/
> [2]  http://openmoko.org/
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:

> On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 13:23 -0500, Josiah Ritchie
wrote:
>> If I understand banshee right, it is designed so
that various
>> interfaces can be placed on top of it and various
engines can be put
>> below it. I'm also seeing that there is an interest
in running .net[1]
>> on the OpenMoko[2]. so I'm thinking it would be
easy enough to create
>> an interface that would run, perhaps on the Helix
backend. I
>> understand Helix is a common embedded device
product. Then an
>> interface could be put together with perhaps an
appropriate radio
>> plugin and we'd have banshee for this cool cell
phone and also
>> providing ip radio.
>>
>> To be sure, this is a long way from fruition. The
.net implementation
>> for OpenMoko is still in the planning stage, but
I'd like to see
>> banshee break into its potential to have other
interfaces on top of
>> it. I really like the current one, but why not
spread the beauty out
>> to OpenMoko or KDE or Vista?
>>
>> So how big a project would that really be? Is the
ease of this porting
>> all in my head? Being a non-programmer, I'm likely
missing many issues
>> that would have to be faced, but it sounds like an
interesting project
>> for someone with interest in embedded stuff and
C#/Mono.
>
> Banshee should be portable, but I'm afraid nobody of us
has an OpenMoko.
> I'd be willing to hack on it though, would be a great
test for our
> codebase.
>
>    Ruben

There are a number of emulators for OpenMoko (xoo, qemu),
and some of us will
have OpenMokos very soon.

I'm trying to set up the OpenMoko development environment
and emulators as we speak.

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Hi

Is it possible to run Hyena using the make files? I'm just
getting
library linking problems when trying to run it direct or
using 'run' in
it's own makefile.

Cheers

On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 12:42 -0600, Gabriel Burt wrote:
> For an example of implementing an alternative frontend
to Banshee, look in
> src/Core/Banshee.Hyena/.
> 
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Josiah Ritchie wrote:
> If I understand banshee right, it is designed so that
various
> interfaces can be placed on top of it and various
engines can be put
> below it. I'm also seeing that there is an interest in
running .net[1]
> on the OpenMoko[2]. so I'm thinking it would be easy
enough to create
> an interface that would run, perhaps on the Helix
backend. I
> understand Helix is a common embedded device product.
Then an
> interface could be put together with perhaps an
appropriate radio
> plugin and we'd have banshee for this cool cell phone
and also
> providing ip radio.
>
> To be sure, this is a long way from fruition. The .net
implementation
> for OpenMoko is still in the planning stage, but I'd
like to see
> banshee break into its potential to have other
interfaces on top of
> it. I really like the current one, but why not spread
the beauty out
> to OpenMoko or KDE or Vista?
>
> So how big a project would that really be? Is the ease
of this porting
> all in my head? Being a non-programmer, I'm likely
missing many issues
> that would have to be faced, but it sounds like an
interesting project
> for someone with interest in embedded stuff and
C#/Mono.
>
> JSR/
>
> [1]  http://
projects.openmoko.org/projects/dotnet/
> [2]  http://openmoko.org/
>   
Banshee on the Nokia N800 would also be pretty cool.
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When I am listening radio (using radio plugin) and press
stop and then  
play, banhee does not return tu play the previous radio
station. The same  
I have using the tray icon

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On 2/20/07, Iron Bone <iron.bonewp.pl> wrote:
> When I am listening radio (using radio plugin) and
press stop and then
> play, banhee does not return tu play the previous radio
station. The same
> I have using the tray icon

You may want to add yourself to bug 400235 for notification
of
progress on this bug:
http
://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400235

JSR/

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On 2/20/07, Dan M <listsmunckfish.net> wrote:
> Is it possible to run Hyena using the make files? I'm
just getting
> library linking problems when trying to run it direct
or using 'run' in
> it's own makefile.

It probably needs to be updated because of changes in the
rest of
Banshee; it was written quite a while ago and is not
actively
developed.

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Hi,

On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:57 -0600, Gabriel Burt wrote: 
> On 2/20/07, Dan M <listsmunckfish.net> wrote:
> > Is it possible to run Hyena using the make files?
I'm just getting
> > library linking problems when trying to run it
direct or using 'run' in
> > it's own makefile.
> 
> It probably needs to be updated because of changes in
the rest of
> Banshee; it was written quite a while ago and is not
actively
> developed.

I took some time to play around with Hyena, and I managed to
get "make
run" to work and start the application.

The changes to /src/Core/Banshee.Hyena/Makefile.am are easy,
but then I
had to change some stuff in other places : the code assumed
that the
main menu widget was present, and that lead to a crash.

I'll put the patch on Bugzilla if anyone is interested. What
I have now
needs some more work.

Cheers,

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