sugar

Hello,

I've installed Sugar (from Mercurial tip) on Ubuntu Linux.
I don't know if there are any Ubuntu users here, but I
wrote
a description how to install it in wiki: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/Install
ing_sugar--devel_on_Ubuntu_Linux

There were also some problems, so perhaps Sugar developers
can 
have a look on that page. 
Is this sugar going to be the only chat application and the
only
web browser in OLPC systems? I haven't found any docs about
it, only 
http://w
iki.laptop.org/index.php/SugarDemo2. 

BTW is there a difference in discussed topics on
olpc-software and 
devellaptop.org mailing lists?

Cheers,
Marcin

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Marcin Wojdyr wrote:
> Is this sugar going to be the only chat application and
the only
> web browser in OLPC systems? 

Probably the only chat app in the short term, but there
should be a
standalone Firefox available. The web browser is just
embedded Gecko;
Sugar certainly isn't its own browser.

> BTW is there a difference in discussed topics on
olpc-software and 
> devellaptop.org mailing lists?

No. I hope to merge the lists soon to devell.o.

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On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 00:47 +0200, Ivan Krstic wrote:
> Marcin Wojdyr wrote:
> > Is this sugar going to be the only chat
application and the only
> > web browser in OLPC systems? 
> 
> Probably the only chat app in the short term, but there
should be a
> standalone Firefox available. The web browser is just
embedded Gecko;
> Sugar certainly isn't its own browser.

Sugar uses xulrunner.

    David


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On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 00:47 +0200, Ivan Krstic wrote:
> Marcin Wojdyr wrote:
> > Is this sugar going to be the only chat
application and the only
> > web browser in OLPC systems? 
> 
> Probably the only chat app in the short term, but there
should be a
> standalone Firefox available. The web browser is just
embedded Gecko;
> Sugar certainly isn't its own browser.

That's certainly debatable... FF has a lot of junk that we
may/may not
need.  This isn't to say the the Sugar bits will be the
only way to look
at web pages, but you have to ask what all the stuff in FF
is needed
for.

Dan


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Dan Williams wrote:
> That's certainly debatable... FF has a lot of junk
that we may/may not
> need.  

Right. Davidz mentioned on IRC that we're now getting Gecko
out of
XULRunner instead of Firefox, so I suppose there's no
compelling reason
to keep Firefox proper around.

> This isn't to say the the Sugar bits will be the only
way to look
> at web pages, but you have to ask what all the stuff in
FF is needed
> for.

I haven't looked at the very recent Sugar snapshots, but do
we have it
playing nicely with the canvas element and such? I seem to
recall
earlier versions couldn't show Logowiki.

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On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 17:17 +0200, Ivan Krstic wrote:
> Dan Williams wrote:
> > That's certainly debatable... FF has a lot of
junk that we may/may not
> > need.  
> 
> Right. Davidz mentioned on IRC that we're now getting
Gecko out of
> XULRunner instead of Firefox, so I suppose there's no
compelling reason
> to keep Firefox proper around.
> 
> > This isn't to say the the Sugar bits will be the
only way to look
> > at web pages, but you have to ask what all the
stuff in FF is needed
> > for.
> 
> I haven't looked at the very recent Sugar snapshots,
but do we have it
> playing nicely with the canvas element and such? I seem
to recall
> earlier versions couldn't show Logowiki.

If this doesn't work with gecko-embed and xulrunner, then
I'd consider
it a bug that we need to fix, yes.

Dan


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Ivan Krstic wrote:
>> This isn't to say the the Sugar bits will be the
only way to look
>> at web pages, but you have to ask what all the
stuff in FF is needed
>> for.
> 
> I haven't looked at the very recent Sugar snapshots,
but do we have it
> playing nicely with the canvas element and such? I seem
to recall
> earlier versions couldn't show Logowiki.
> 

The xulrunner that we currently have seem to work fine on
logowiki.net. 
  I just ran some of the demos.

--Chris

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