Hand Colored Photos

Agfa used to produce a photo paper Portrigal Rapid that
rendered a
warm tone and was great for coloring your photos. Is there
any other
paper on the market that has a tooth that can be used for
coloring
with Marshall Oils?
I would preferred regular photo paper processed using
chemicals. I
would appreciate any one's advice who had good results.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wgriffin1" <wgriffin1gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:25 PM
Subject: Hand Colored Photos


>
> Agfa used to produce a photo paper Portrigal Rapid that

> rendered a
> warm tone and was great for coloring your photos. Is
there 
> any other
> paper on the market that has a tooth that can be used
for 
> coloring
> with Marshall Oils?
> I would preferred regular photo paper processed using 
> chemicals. I
> would appreciate any one's advice who had good
results.
>
>
    You might look at the Freestyle catalogue. I believe 
Ilford makes warm tone paper and they have some papers made

by Kentmere which may be just what  you are looking for. 
I've used this paper under the Freestyle house brand Arista.

Agfa Portriga Rapid was a favorite of mine but is long gone.

Agfa discontinued it, and other warm tone papers, some time

ago. I don't know the exact reason but the fact that Kodak 
also discontinued Ektalure at about the same time suggests 
the rumor that it was due to  some environmentally hazardous

substance used in their manufacture, perhaps a Cadmium 
compound.
    The papers available through Freestyle have a neutral 
colored base without brighteners which should be OK.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburkix.netcom.com
 


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Thanks Richard,
I know I can count on you for good advice. It so good to
know that
some one else had the experience with hand coloring. I used
the
extalure X it wa a wonderful paper.
Walter

On Jul 17, 7:24 pm, "Richard Knoppow"
<dickb...ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wgriffin1" <wgriff...gmail.com>
> To: "Black & White Photography"
>
> <Black--White-Photographygooglegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:25 PM
> Subject: Hand Colored Photos
>
> > Agfa used to produce a photo paper Portrigal Rapid
that
> > rendered a
> > warm tone and was great for coloring your photos.
Is there
> > any other
> > paper on the market that has a tooth that can be
used for
> > coloring
> > with Marshall Oils?
> > I would preferred regular photo paper processed
using
> > chemicals. I
> > would appreciate any one's advice who had good
results.
>
>     You might look at the Freestyle catalogue. I
believe
> Ilford makes warm tone paper and they have some papers
made
> by Kentmere which may be just what  you are looking
for.
> I've used this paper under the Freestyle house brand
Arista.
> Agfa Portriga Rapid was a favorite of mine but is long
gone.
> Agfa discontinued it, and other warm tone papers, some
time
> ago. I don't know the exact reason but the fact that
Kodak
> also discontinued Ektalure at about the same time
suggests
> the rumor that it was due to  some environmentally
hazardous
> substance used in their manufacture, perhaps a Cadmium
> compound.
>     The papers available through Freestyle have a
neutral
> colored base without brighteners which should be OK.
>
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickb...ix.netcom.com


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "wgriffin1" <wgriffin1gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: Hand Colored Photos


>
> Thanks Richard,
> I know I can count on you for good advice. It so good
to 
> know that
> some one else had the experience with hand coloring. I

> used the
> extalure X it wa a wonderful paper.
> Walter
>

   Kodak used to make some wonderful warm tone papers. 
Ektalure could produce a nearly brown tone directly when the

right developer was used. Many years ago, when I started 
out, I used a lot of Opal, a very slow warm tone paper. It 
was available in only normal contrast grade but probably 20

combinations of textures, surfaces, and stock tints, 
including X, which I think was called tapestry.
   I've seen hand colored photos that looked like oil 
paintings and some that look like full color photos. This is

much more skill than I ever had. The best I can do is the 
familiar tinted picture. Oil coloring was quite popular up 
to the time that color photography became reasonably cheap 
and available, say the 1970's.
   If you can't get the right image color from direct 
development its possible you might be able to get it from 
toning. There are two toners which produce toning which is 
reasonably uniform in different densities. One is the 
familiar Kodak Brown Toner (Agfa Viradon is/was virtually 
identical), the other is Nelson's Gold Toner which you have

to mix youself. It was licensed to both Kodak and Agfa/Ansco

who published the formulas and instructions, but was never 
put up in packaged form. The best source of instruction for

Nelson's is the patent USP 1,849,245
You can get this from the U.S.Patent and Trademark Office 
site at http://www.uspto.gov  or
from Google Patents. If you 
can't find it I will send you a PDF via private e-mail.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburkix.netcom.com


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