On Oct 31, 2007 9:43 AM, Robert Kerr <r.kerr cranfield.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 12:06 -0400, Blake Hartstein
wrote:
> > These signatures were scheduled for deletion on
October 10, 2007; I
> > would like to find out why.
>
> > They seem to be useful signatures, is the reason
that it is difficult
> > for end-users to identify external DNS? Were there
a large number of
> > non-malicious resolutions that resolve internal
addresses? Or is there
> > another reason?
>
> Can't comment on the exact reason, but there was a
definite issue with
> non-malicious resolutions. RBLs are the big example
here, anyone with a
> mailserver doing RBL checks would have been deluged
with hits on
> 127.x.x.x.
Seems like something a bit of tuning (suppress/pass rules)
could take care of.
> The number of misconfigured systems out there seemed
> surprisingly large too.
People's ability to fsck up configurations of any kind is
astounding.
There is one relevant thing we've been trying to track with
these
sigs, although it's an older tactic. For DNS based C&C
channels, and
bot agents configured to check in at a set interval (every
minute say)
for command retrieval, it's been easy to pick up on them
because of
lots of regularly timed requests heading to the Internet. It
seemed to
be in an effort to control this, herders would set C&C
host addresses
of 127.0.0.1 in DNS while there was no new command to issue
and then
update the record to a valid host address when the client
was supposed
to connect in. This caused a sleeper cell situation where
the bot
would appear dormant until the record updated, but would be
easy to
clue in on when seeing 127.0.0.1 come back in a DNS response
from the
outside.
As far as the rebinding sigs / attack goes, have browsers
and active
media plugins nowadays been fixed enough to rectify the
threat?
--
Darren Spruell
phatbuckett gmail.com
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