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A Feq Questions
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2006-08-24 00:47:49
David,

Thanks for the quick response.

I'm sorry to hear that Blojsom3 will require database storage. One of the things I liked a lot about Blojsom was the fact that it was so darn easy to install and make it run. Mucking around with databases will probably change that. Will it work with any of the embedded Java dbs? Particularly Apache Derby? Still, you're right. I might as well face the music and upgrade sooner rather than later. I'll look into blojsom3 this weekend.

As for templates and the like, my primary concern is maitenance. I would like to be able to easily upgrade blojsom without having to move any user-generated or user-customized files (like templates/themes). Just rename the /var/webapps/blojsom directory and go. My other concern is that several of my users would like to share customized themes. How could I centralize storage of such customized themes when it seems blogs can only check WEB-INF/blogId/templates ?

As for the referer log plugin, is the code in SVN? Maybe you could toss out a URL and I could check it out.

Thanks.

On 8/23/06, David Czarnecki <blojsom.com">davidblojsom.com> wrote:
Re: 1) In blojsom 3, Aside from the individual weblog templates and the administration interface's JavaScript/images/CSS/etc., all the weblog data is stored in a database. It may also be the case that a future update for blojsom 3.x will involve being able to serve templates and themes from the database. I just didn't want to keep putting off blojsom 3.0.

I really don't have any plans on making the blojsom 2.x codebase work in this way.

Themes are a named collection of templates. For example, the default theme in blojsom is called Asual and is made up of 6 individual template files.

If you need help customizing templates and/or themes, don't hesitate to ask here. They're very easy to understand and work with.

Re: 2) In blojsom 3, there is a page to manage unapproved responses. In blojsom 2, there is no such page. There are no plans to make this functionality available for blojsom 2.

Re: 3) The referrer log plugin needs some re-work. I plan on re-writing that plugin for blojsom 3.

In blojsom 2, the original blojsom theme has a page called html-referers.vm which contains code to display the referrer data from the referrer plugin. You could adapt that for the Asual theme w/o a lot of work and then access the page by adding ?page=referers to the end of your blog's URL.


If you've just installed blojsom 2, maybe you want to move right now to blojsom 3 since that's where all new development will be focused.
Hey guys. I'm a new blojsom user and I must admit I like blojsom a lot. I have a few questions, and I'm hoping somebody can clear them up for me.

(1) Completely separating all user-generated and user-customized files from the webapp. It seems there's a lot files (templates, resources, and themes) that are stored under the blojsom webapp. I see this causing lots of problems for me in the future. I'd like to be able to move these files from out under the webapp. How might I go about doing this? Ideally, I'd like to have a setup like: /var/weblogs/data,templates,resources,themes. Users should be able to share templates/themes (still not sure what the relationship is between a template and a theme) and I'd like to customize all the template-themes (adding standard copyright stuff). How hard would this be to setup?

(2) When comment moderation is turned on, where are the comments waiting to be approved stored? Is there a single page in the administration interface where I can see all the comments waiting for review?

(3) Where can I see the referer and access logs for a blog? I understand that the referer document isn't displayed publicly to prevent referer spam, but I'd still love to see this information. Does blojsom preserve it at all? Can I enable it in web.xml?

Thanks.


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A Feq Questions
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2006-08-24 01:38:56
Can you use Derby with Hibernate? I imagine it might only be a matter of changing the table creation scripts and some of the Hibernate configuration items to work w/ Derby. I’d like to have as many creation scripts for as many database as people are using out there. The more the merrier

Typically, for almost 3 1/2 years now, blojsom upgrades have only been upgrading the JAR files. Of course, new plugins and changes to some components do require other changes, but those have been minimal. That doesn̵7;t affect the templates at all. Pretty simple I’d say.

<http://wiki.blojsom.com/wiki/display/blojsom/Upgrading>

As far as centralized storage of customized themes, in old blojsom and in new blojsom, there̵7;s a theme switcher plugin. It basically works by using directories off of /WEB-INF/themes as the theme names and then specific directories for the theme resources and theme templates. So, I imagine that will work for you.

There’s no referrer log plugin done yet for blojsom 3. I’ll probably base it off the code for the plugin in blojsom 2.

On 8/23/06 8:47 PM, "Azubuko Obele"; <buko.obelegmail.com&gt; wrote:

David,

Thanks for the quick response.

I'm sorry to hear that Blojsom3 will require database storage. One of the things I liked a lot about Blojsom was the fact that it was so darn easy to install and make it run. Mucking around with databases will probably change that. Will it work with any of the embedded Java dbs? Particularly Apache Derby? Still, you're right. I might as well face the music and upgrade sooner rather than later. I'll look into blojsom3 this weekend.

As for templates and the like, my primary concern is maitenance. I would like to be able to easily upgrade blojsom without having to move any user-generated or user-customized files (like templates/themes). Just rename the /var/webapps/blojsom directory and go. My other concern is that several of my users would like to share customized themes. How could I centralize storage of such customized themes when it seems blogs can only check WEB-INF/blogId/templates ?

As for the referer log plugin, is the code in SVN? Maybe you could toss out a URL and I could check it out.

Thanks.

On 8/23/06, David Czarnecki <davidblojsom.com> wrote:
Re: 1) In blojsom 3, Aside from the individual weblog templates and the administration interface's JavaScript/images/CSS/etc., all the weblog data is stored in a database. It may also be the case that a future update for blojsom 3.x will involve being able to serve templates and themes from the database. I just didn't want to keep putting off blojsom 3.0.

I really don't have any plans on making the blojsom 2.x codebase work in this way.

Themes are a named collection of templates. For example, the default theme in blojsom is called Asual and is made up of 6 individual template files.

If you need help customizing templates and/or themes, don't hesitate to ask here. They're very easy to understand and work with.

Re: 2) In blojsom 3, there is a page to manage unapproved responses. In blojsom 2, there is no such page. There are no plans to make this functionality available for blojsom 2.

Re: 3) The referrer log plugin needs some re-work. I plan on re-writing that plugin for blojsom 3.

In blojsom 2, the original blojsom theme has a page called html-referers.vm which contains code to display the referrer data from the referrer plugin. You could adapt that for the Asual theme w/o a lot of work and then access the page by adding ?page=referers to the end of your blog's URL.


If you've just installed blojsom 2, maybe you want to move right now to blojsom 3 since that's where all new development will be focused.


On 8/23/06 11:28 AM, "Azubuko Obele"; <buko.obelegmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hey guys. I'm a new blojsom user and I must admit I like blojsom a lot. I have a few questions, and I'm hoping somebody can clear them up for me.

(1) Completely separating all user-generated and user-customized files from the webapp. It seems there's a lot files (templates, resources, and themes) that are stored under the blojsom webapp. I see this causing lots of problems for me in the future. I'd like to be able to move these files from out under the webapp. How might I go about doing this? Ideally, I'd like to have a setup like: /var/weblogs/data,templates,resources,themes. Users should be able to share templates/themes (still not sure what the relationship is between a template and a theme) and I'd like to customize all the template-themes (adding standard copyright stuff). How hard would this be to setup?

(2) When comment moderation is turned on, where are the comments waiting to be approved stored? Is there a single page in the administration interface where I can see all the comments waiting for review?

(3) Where can I see the referer and access logs for a blog? I understand that the referer document isn't displayed publicly to prevent referer spam, but I'd still love to see this information. Does blojsom preserve it at all? Can I enable it in web.xml?

Thanks.


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