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  The knowledge gap is probably how to change the servlet
mapping in web.xml.
In php the folder the files go in is the folder it will be
on the web server.
More intuitive. 

  Another idea is running PHP and Java together by passing
*.jsp and others
through from Apache to Tomcat.

  I'm also not fond of configuring Java stuff. Even though
I worked 5 years
doing J2EE I can get a PHP app running in minutes but am not
surprised to take
an hour trying to install a Java one. And a J2EE app? Cross
your fingers. It
*might* work with Geronimo or maybe JBoss is required. Of
course this is not a
problem with OpenSource because one can effect integration
with some sweat with
OpenSource but integration is a pay service with proprietary
(IME). 

  I don't know about everyone else but just getting the
Java environment setup
on CentOS (based on RedHat sources) Linux was no small
matter. First of all it
did not come with a respectable JRE (the free stuff was nice
but not
production). Next I had to setup all of the mappings for
Apache to Tomcat.
Actually had to upgrade Postgresql, Tomcat, etc. because the
default install
and upgrade gets less than new stuff. Then on to setting up
a J2EE server. With
PHP things are different. I've never written a line of PHP
but every PHP app
has worked. I had to touch the php.ini a few times but
that's it. Much less
complicated than the Java world. Of course it does not help
that the Tomcat
person in his point release changed how server.xml config
must be done. I guess
you can do that with OpenSource but probably another reason
so much is being
done in PHP.

  As to integration. This is a big hole in all of software.
What I see
Microsoft, Cisco, and IBM doing is cutting out features and
making another
product from it. Take a look at all the junkola M$FT sells
for their Small
Business apps or all the junkola one could buy to setup a
Business
Objects/Crystal Reports analystics site. This suggests there
is plenty of room
for independent apps but OpenSource has a huge competitive
advantage if authors
can make their software integrate. For instance, I think an
enormous
opportunity exists in eCommerce/storefronts. osCommerce and
Zen Cart are
leaders. Imagine if the product marketing is integrated with
SQL-Ledger. And
then done in a universal database so any product can be
bought from any store.

My $.02,
TimJowers

--- David Czarnecki <davidblojsom.com> wrote:

> I guess I'm missing where it doesn't work in
practice.
> 
> I could achieve that on my site by changing the blojsom
servlet mapping or
> by adding a servlet mapping to also have blojsom
respond to "/blogs/". If I
> added the servlet mapping, I'd turn on dynamic URLs so
that blojsom
> identified the various blog URL properties from the
request.
> 
> As far as installing Jforums, it could be installed to
the ROOT web
> application by adding the required JAR files and adding
the required
> configuration elements in the ROOT web application's
web.xml file.
> 
> 
> On 9/18/06 7:57 PM, "Graham Reeds"
<grahamrntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> > David Czarnecki wrote:
> >> Re: your issue with the /blog/ in the URL. If
you installed blojsom as the
> >> ROOT web application in say Tomcat, you'd be
able to change the blojsom
> >> servlet mapping to /blogs/ and have http://your.sit
e.com/blogs/username/.
> >> 
> > 
> > Yes, but as covered previously that doesn't
really work in practice.
> > Just say I wanted to use jforums as well: To get
the layout I want I'd
> > have to install that to the root too and it is
highly unlikely they
> > would work together.
> > 
> > G.
> > 
> > 
> >
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