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Re: using class 1 dongle
user name
2007-04-12 04:03:41
Hi,

  Just curious, in this case, the class 2 BT cannot transmit

power to class 1 BT as the distance is way out of range,
but
can class 1 BT transmit files to class 2 BT?  since to
class
1 BT the class 2 phone is in range?

--ken

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:47:53 +1200
From: Thomas Kear <thomas.keargmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] using class 1 dongle
To: BlueZ users <bluez-userslists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <200704110847.58296.thomas.keargmail.com>
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, siddhant tewari wrote:
>                  Really great to get a answer ... i
think my mobile phone
> has class 2 bt adapter ... but this issue is a real
shock for me ... i
> thought if any of the devices has a good range ,
communication channel will
> be established and data transfer will take place , but
all this theory goes
> in vain .
The problem is as simple as transmit power.  As wikipedia
helpfully
shows 
(http://en
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Uses), class 1 devices can
have
40 
times the transmit power of class 2 devices, the class 1
connecting to
class 
2 problem comes down to that past a certain range, the class
2 device
does 
not have a high enough transmit power for its signal to
reach the
reciever 
(2.4GHz signals are eaten particularly fast by everything in
their path, 
including air).

As i outlined before, the higher transmit power in a class 1
device will
come 
coupled to a higher sensitivity reciever, but that's not
going to get
you 
100m.  If you had got the 30-40 metres you were attempting
in your
original 
email you would have been extremely lucky.

The problem is there are very few phones that come with
class 1
bluetooth, 
100mW transmit power is a little hard on battery life.  If
you want a 
challenge though, find a class1 bluetooth adapter that has a
dipole
aerial 
rather than the usual circuit board trace and attach a
bigger one.
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Re: using class 1 dongle
user name
2007-04-12 04:10:05
what i think is that for any kind of transfer to take place (for e.g. via obex push or obex ftp profile) both way handshakes are necessary to instantiate the transfer ....


  Just curious, in this case, the class 2 Bdshannot transmit
power to class 1 BT as the distance is way out of range, but
can class 1 BT transmit files to class 2 BT? &nbsp;since to class
1 BT the class 2 phone is in range?

--ken

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:47:53 +1200
From: Thomas Kear < thomas.keargmail.com">thomas.keargmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Bluez-users] using class 1 dongle
To: BlueZ users < bluez-userslists.sourceforge.net">bluez-userslists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: < 200704110847.58296.thomas.keargmail.com">200704110847.58296.thomas.keargmail.com >
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, siddhant tewari wrote:
>; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;   ; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Really great to get a answer ... i think my mobile phone
> has class 2 bt adapter ... but this issue is a real shock for me ... i
> thought if any of the devices has a good range , communication channel will
> be established and data transfer will take place , but all this theory goes
> in vain .
The problem is as simple as transmit power.&nbsp; As wikipedia helpfully
shows
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Uses), class 1 devices can have
40
times the transmit power of class 2 devices, the class 1 connecting to
class
2 problem comes down to that past a certain range, the class 2 device
does
not have a high enough transmit power for its signal to reach the
reciever
(2.4GHz signals are eaten particularly fast by everything in their path,
including air).

As i outlined before, the higher transmit power in a class 1 device will
come
coupled to a higher sensitivity reciever, but that's not going to get
you
100m. &nbsp;If you had got the 30-40 metres you were attempting in your
original
email you would have been extremely lucky.

The problem is there are very few phones that come with class 1
bluetooth,
100mW transmit power is a little hard on battery life. ; If you want a
challenge though, find a class1 bluetooth adapter that has a dipole
aerial
rather than the usual circuit board trace and attach a bigger one.
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