Nokia 6310i and gammu

HELLO

I'M TRYING TO BACK UP MY PHONE ADDRESS BOOK ON MY NOKIA
6310I
(YEAH, I KNOW IT'S OLD, BIT IT STILL WORKS), AND I'VE GOT
SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS.

I'M ON A FEW MONTHS OLD 6-STABLE.

1) I'D LIKE TO ACHIVE THIS WITH GAMMU, AND CURRENTLY IT
DOESN'T WORK,
--IDENTIFY SHOWS NOTHING BUT EXISTS.

2) DO I NEED BTHIDD? HOW SHOULD I WRITE ITS CONFIGURATION
FILE, SINCE
THERE ARE NO MANUALS OR ANYTHING ON GOOGLE FOR IT?

3) MANY REFERENCES MENTION /ETC/RC.BLUETOOTH, BUT I HAVE NO
SUCH FILE.
WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH THIS? HOW CAN I INITALIZE MY UBT0
DEVICE?


4) I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GAMMU'S OR FREEBSD'S FAULT, BUT
WHEN
I DO "GAMMU --IDENTIFY" IT DOES SIMPLY NOTHING.
I'M UNABLE TO PERSUADE IT FOR SOME KIND OF VERBOSE OUTPUT,
AND
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO CONTACT WITH THE GAMMU
DEVS.
I'VE TRIED ALL THE RELATED GAMMU CONNECTION METHODS, BUT
NOTHING
WORKS.

``HCCONTROL INQUIRY'' SHOWS MY PHONE, I'VE GOT THAT.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS THIS "KEY" THINGIE IN
THE CONFIG,
WASN'T ABLE TO FIND SUCH A THING IN MY PHONE. AND I'VE GOT
THE PIN CODE TURNED OFF IN THE PHONE.

WHERE COULD I FIND SOME RESOURCES ON HOW TO GET THIS THING
WORK?
ANYBODY HAD ANY SUCCESSES WITH GAMMU AND FREEBSD?

ARE THERE OTHER TOOLS WITH WHICH I CAN BACK UP MY
PHONE BOOK ON THIS NOKIA USING BLUETOOTH?

THANKS IN ADVANCE

SINCERELY,

GERGELY CZUCZY
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hello,

> I'm trying to back up my phone address book on my nokia
6310i
> (yeah, i know it's old, bit it still works), and I've
got
> some questions on this.
>
> I'm on a few months old 6-STABLE.
>
> 1) i'd like to achive this with gammu, and currently it
doesn't work,
> --identify shows nothing but exists.

ok

> 2) do i need bthidd? how should i write its
configuration file, since
> there are no manuals or anything on google for it?

no you do not need it, and bthidd(8) comes with manual page
in base system

> 3) many references mention /etc/rc.bluetooth, but i
have no such file.
> what should i do with this? how can i initalize my ubt0
device?

the references are not correct (or you made a typo). there
is a
/etc/rc.d/bluetooth  script that would initialize your
device as soon
as you plugged it in. all you need to do is to

- load ng_ubt(4) module
- make sure devd(8) is running
- attach your device

for more details look at /etc/devd.conf and related manual
pages

> 4) I don't know if it's gammu's or freebsd's fault, but
when
> i do "gammu --identify" it does simply
nothing.
> I'm unable to persuade it for some kind of verbose
output, and
> I'm still looking for some way to contact with the
gammu devs.
> i've tried all the related gammu connection methods,
but nothing
> works.

gammu will use serial port profile to talk to bluetooth
enabled phone.
before trying gammu you can try rfcomm_sppd(1) to see if
your phone
allows you to use serial port profile. you will probably
need to pair
your phone and pc. once you get rfcomm_sppd(1) working then
you can
move to gammu.

> ``hccontrol inquiry'' shows my phone, i've got that.

then it means your bluetooth device was initialized and
appear to be working

> I don't really know what is this "key"
thingie in the config,
> wasn't able to find such a thing in my phone. And i've
got
> the PIN code turned off in the phone.

key is the link key. pin is a pin code that you need for
paring. since
most (all?) phones only allow to enter pin you need to
configure pin
code for your phone in /etc/bluetooth/hcsecd.conf and then
pair your
phone and pc. hint: enter the same pin code on your phone
when
prompted

> Where could I find some resources on how to get this
thing
> work?

freebsd handbook is a good start

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US
.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bluetooth.html

> Anybody had any successes with gammu and freebsd?

yes, last time i tried it worked for me.

> Are there other tools with which I can back up my
> phone book on this nokia using bluetooth?

nokia's are notoriously bad (imo) in this regard. the only
way, i know
of, is to use serial port profile and issue a bunch of at
commands to
get entries in phone book and that is what gammu/gnoki
does.

other (than nokia) phones will allow you to push all phone
book and/or
individual entries using obex and there is comms/opexapp
application
in freebsd port collections for that.

thanks,
max
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On 8/17/07, Gergely CZUCZY <phoemixharmless.hu> wrote:
> > yes, last time i tried it worked for me.
> may i ask for your .gammurc?
> i couldn't really figure out what kind of connection
setting
> i need to make this work... at least, what i've tried,
those
> failed to work

first of all, please *always* include freebsd-bluetooth list
into cc:
so i do not have to answer the same question(s) over and
over.

i just installed gammu-1.12.0 from ports and was able to
make it work
with my se k700i.

below is my .gammurc

===

[gammu]
 port = 00:0a:d9:XX:XX:XX
 connection = bluerfat

===

note: port should contain bd_addr of your phone. the output
looks like

beetle% ./gammu/gammu --identify
Manufacturer         : Sony Ericsson
Model                : K700i (AAB-1021041-BV)
Firmware             : R2AE033  R2AE033    
prgCXC125821_EU_1_C
IMEI                 : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Product code         : AAB-1021041-BV
SIM IMSI             : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

so it should work,

however

there is a problem with the gammu-1.12.0 port because gammu
developers
switched to new configuration system (cmake) and it no
longer able to
detect bluetooth support on freebsd. i had to hack gammu
port to
convince it to detect bluetooth support, and once i've done
it, it
worked.

the above is NOT a problem with bluetooth. this is a problem
with
gammu port. please email gammu port maintainer (or possibly
gammu
developers directly) and ask them to address this issue.

another possible solution for you is to use older
(pre-cmake) gammu
port or try gnokii.

thanks,
max
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ON SAT, AUG 18, 2007 AT 02:15:59PM +0200, MICHAL ?IHA?
WROTE:
> GAMMU DOES HAVE SUPPORT FOR LINUX AND WIN32 BLUETOOTH
STACK ONLY FOR
> NOW, HOWEVER YOU'RE WELCOME TO SEND PATCHES FOR OTHERS
.
PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE FROM MAKSIM YEVMENKIN.
PERSONALLY,
I HAVEN'T CHECKED ALL THE DETAILS MYSELF, BUT HE MIGHT HAVE
POINTED OUT
SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

ON FRI, AUG 17, 2007 AT 12:00:02PM -0700, MAKSIM YEVMENKIN
WROTE:
> ON 8/17/07, GERGELY CZUCZY <PHOEMIXHARMLESS.HU> WROTE:
> > > YES, LAST TIME I TRIED IT WORKED FOR ME.
> > MAY I ASK FOR YOUR .GAMMURC?
> > I COULDN'T REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF
CONNECTION SETTING
> > I NEED TO MAKE THIS WORK... AT LEAST, WHAT I'VE
TRIED, THOSE
> > FAILED TO WORK
> 
> I JUST INSTALLED GAMMU-1.12.0 FROM PORTS AND WAS ABLE
TO MAKE IT WORK
> WITH MY SE K700I.
> 
> BELOW IS MY .GAMMURC
> 
> ===
> 
> [GAMMU]
>  PORT = 00:0A9:XX:XX:
XX
>  CONNECTION = BLUERFAT
> 
> ===
> 
> NOTE: PORT SHOULD CONTAIN BD_ADDR OF YOUR PHONE. THE
OUTPUT LOOKS LIKE
> 
> BEETLE% ./GAMMU/GAMMU --IDENTIFY
> MANUFACTURER         : SONY ERICSSON
> MODEL                : K700I (AAB-1021041-BV)
> FIRMWARE             : R2AE033  R2AE033    
PRGCXC125821_EU_1_C
> IMEI                 : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> PRODUCT CODE         : AAB-1021041-BV
> SIM IMSI             : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
> 
> SO IT SHOULD WORK,
> 
> HOWEVER
> 
> THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE GAMMU-1.12.0 PORT BECAUSE
GAMMU DEVELOPERS
> SWITCHED TO NEW CONFIGURATION SYSTEM (CMAKE) AND IT NO
LONGER ABLE TO
> DETECT BLUETOOTH SUPPORT ON FREEBSD. I HAD TO HACK
GAMMU PORT TO
> CONVINCE IT TO DETECT BLUETOOTH SUPPORT, AND ONCE I'VE
DONE IT, IT
> WORKED.
> 
> THE ABOVE IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH BLUETOOTH. THIS IS A
PROBLEM WITH
> GAMMU PORT. PLEASE EMAIL GAMMU PORT MAINTAINER (OR
POSSIBLY GAMMU
> DEVELOPERS DIRECTLY) AND ASK THEM TO ADDRESS THIS
ISSUE.
> 
> ANOTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR YOU IS TO USE OLDER
(PRE-CMAKE) GAMMU
> PORT OR TRY GNOKII.
> 
> THANKS,
> MAX

SINCERELY,

GERGELY CZUCZY
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On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:36:34PM +0200, Gergely CZUCZY
wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:15:59PM +0200, Michal
??iha?? wrote:
> > Gammu does have support for Linux and Win32
bluetooth stack only for
> > now, however you're welcome to send patches for
others .
> 
> Please consider the following message from Maksim
Yevmenkin.
> Personally, I haven't checked all the details myself,
but he might
> have pointed out something important.

There are no details, unfortunately.


> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:00:02PM -0700, Maksim
Yevmenkin wrote:
> > i just installed gammu-1.12.0 from ports and was
able to make it
> > work with my se k700i.

Sweet!


> > there is a problem with the gammu-1.12.0 port
because gammu
> > developers switched to new configuration system
(cmake) and it no
> > longer able to detect bluetooth support on
freebsd. i had to hack
> > gammu port to convince it to detect bluetooth
support, and once
> > i've done it, it worked.

Could you let us know what you needed to do to make
bluetooth work on
FBSD? I'd be happy to see that included into the source.


> > the above is NOT a problem with bluetooth. this is
a problem with
> > gammu port.

Yes, completely correct. I hope noone got the wrong
impression from
the gammu list.


> > please email gammu port maintainer (or possibly
gammu developers
> > directly) and ask them to address this issue.

I don't think any gammu developers know FBSD so hints with
technical
details about what is needed to make it play are very
welcome.


//Peter
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Peter,

thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay with answering
to your
email. please read my comments inline.

On 9/2/07, Peter Stuge <peterstuge.se> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:36:34PM +0200, Gergely
CZUCZY wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:15:59PM +0200, Michal
??iha?? wrote:
> > > Gammu does have support for Linux and Win32
bluetooth stack only for
> > > now, however you're welcome to send patches
for others .
> >
> > Please consider the following message from Maksim
Yevmenkin.
> > Personally, I haven't checked all the details
myself, but he might
> > have pointed out something important.
>
> There are no details, unfortunately.

Boris Samorodov (bsamfreebsd.org) did all the work to port
gammu
bluetooth onto freebsd. he is the gammu's port maintainer.
all his
patches can be found at

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/comms/gammu/


(actual patches at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/comms/
gammu/files/)

bsam's patches work on gammu version 1.13.0, however cmake
scripts do
not have support for detecting bluetooth on freebsd. i'm not
familiar
with cmake, so i simply applied bsam's patches and hacked
cmake
generated .h files to enable relevant bluetooth defines.
once i
compiled hacked version, bluetooth worked fine.

> > > there is a problem with the gammu-1.12.0 port
because gammu
> > > developers switched to new configuration
system (cmake) and it no
> > > longer able to detect bluetooth support on
freebsd. i had to hack
> > > gammu port to convince it to detect bluetooth
support, and once
> > > i've done it, it worked.
>
> Could you let us know what you needed to do to make
bluetooth work on
> FBSD? I'd be happy to see that included into the
source.

please take a look at bsam's patches to see if they can be
included into gammu

please modify cmake scripts so it can properly detect
bluetooth on freebsd

> > > please email gammu port maintainer (or
possibly gammu developers
> > > directly) and ask them to address this
issue.
>
> I don't think any gammu developers know FBSD so hints
with technical
> details about what is needed to make it play are very
welcome.

please feel free to ask in freebsd-bluetoothfreebsd.org any questions
you might have

thanks,
max
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