msvc: x64, ia64

We have two issues about x64 and ia64 support in msvc.jam:

	http://svn
.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/428
	http://sv
n.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/1042

One asks for such support to be added, and another says the
current
support has a typo. Any msvc user know what's the real state
of
things is with *64 support?

Thanks,
Volodya
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on Sat Jul 14 2007, Vladimir Prus <ghost-AT-cs.msu.su>
wrote:

> We have two issues about x64 and ia64 support in
msvc.jam:
>
> 	http://svn
.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/428
> 	http://sv
n.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/1042
>
> One asks for such support to be added, and another says
the current
> support has a typo. Any msvc user know what's the real
state of
> things is with *64 support?

It's a mess.  This message, which never got a response, has
much of
that information, if you read through it to the end.


http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php

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David Abrahams wrote:
> on Sat Jul 14 2007, Vladimir Prus
<ghost-AT-cs.msu.su> wrote:
> 
>> We have two issues about x64 and ia64 support in
msvc.jam:
>>
>> 	http://svn
.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/428
>> 	http://sv
n.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/1042
>>
>> One asks for such support to be added, and another
says the current
>> support has a typo. Any msvc user know what's the
real state of
>> things is with *64 support?
> 
> It's a mess.  This message, which never got a response,
has much of
> that information, if you read through it to the end.

I can launch regular regression testing, with small
turnaround time, on 
VC8 + SP1 and x64 , if that helps


B.

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On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David Abrahams wrote:
> 
> on Sat Jul 14 2007, Vladimir Prus
<ghost-AT-cs.msu.su> wrote:
> 
> > We have two issues about x64 and ia64 support in
msvc.jam:
> >
> > 	http://svn
.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/428
> > 	http://sv
n.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/1042
> >
> > One asks for such support to be added, and another
says the current
> > support has a typo. Any msvc user know what's the
real state of
> > things is with *64 support?
> 
> It's a mess.  This message, which never got a response,
has much of
> that information, if you read through it to the end.
> 
> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php

So, you're saying that

 msvc.configure 8.0 : "<command>c:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
	"<setup>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ; 

got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries for you?	

As for x86_ia64	vs. x86_ipf -- did you notice #1042 claims
"ipf" does not work in practice?
Did you try with that ia64 compiler, whatever that might
be?

- Volodya



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on Mon Jul 16 2007, Vladimir Prus <ghost-AT-cs.msu.su>
wrote:

> On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David Abrahams wrote:
>> 
>> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php
>
> So, you're saying that
>
>  msvc.configure 8.0 : "<command>c:\Program
Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio
8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
> 	"<setup>C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ; 
>
> got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries for you?	

If that's what the message above says, then yes, that's what
I'm saying.

> As for x86_ia64	vs. x86_ipf -- did you notice #1042
claims "ipf"
> does not work in practice?

No I dind't notice.

> Did you try with that ia64 compiler, whatever that
might be?

I don't have an ia64 machine, so no.

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On Monday 16 July 2007 16:07:15 David Abrahams wrote:

> > On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David Abrahams
wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php
> >
> > So, you're saying that
> >
> >  msvc.configure 8.0 :
"<command>c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
> > 	"<setup>C:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ;

> >
> > got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries for you?	
> 
> If that's what the message above says, then yes, that's
what I'm saying.

That's too windy logic for me. I'll take it as "it's
not confirmed that 64-bit msvc works".

> > As for x86_ia64	vs. x86_ipf -- did you notice
#1042 claims "ipf"
> > does not work in practice?
> 
> No I dind't notice.

Ok, somebody commented, unfortunately anonymously, on #1042,
saying
that right spelling is x86_ipf, contrary to what msvc docs
and your email
claim. In light of which, I've checked in the attached and
closed #1042.

- Volodya



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on Wed Jul 18 2007, Vladimir Prus <ghost-AT-cs.msu.su>
wrote:

> On Monday 16 July 2007 16:07:15 David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> > On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David Abrahams
wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php
>> >
>> > So, you're saying that
>> >
>> >  msvc.configure 8.0 :
"<command>c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
>> > 	"<setup>C:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ;

>> >
>> > got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries for you?	
>> 
>> If that's what the message above says, then yes,
that's what I'm saying.
>
> That's too windy logic for me. I'll take it as
"it's not confirmed that 64-bit msvc works".

Let me put it this way: my posting from January referenced
above
clearly (IMO) describes what I did to make it work.  If you
accurately
copied the stuff I did from that message into your message,
then I
confirm that's what it takes.  I'm not sure why you're
asking; was
there something unclear about the message from January?

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On Wednesday 18 July 2007 20:53:24 David Abrahams wrote:
> 
> on Wed Jul 18 2007, Vladimir Prus
<ghost-AT-cs.msu.su> wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 16 July 2007 16:07:15 David Abrahams
wrote:
> >
> >> > On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David
Abrahams wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php
> >> >
> >> > So, you're saying that
> >> >
> >> >  msvc.configure 8.0 :
"<command>c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
> >> > 	"<setup>C:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ;

> >> >
> >> > got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries for
you?	
> >> 
> >> If that's what the message above says, then
yes, that's what I'm saying.
> >
> > That's too windy logic for me. I'll take it as
"it's not confirmed that 64-bit msvc works".
> 
> Let me put it this way: my posting from January
referenced above
> clearly (IMO) describes what I did to make it work.  If
you accurately
> copied the stuff I did from that message into your
message, then I
> confirm that's what it takes.  I'm not sure why you're
asking; was
> there something unclear about the message from
January?

I'm merely double-checking that the above line is all that's
needed to
build 64-bit libraries, and that no important detail got
lost in communication.
I probably should have asked "does it work now?".

- Volodya
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on Wed Jul 18 2007, Vladimir Prus <ghost-AT-cs.msu.su>
wrote:

> On Wednesday 18 July 2007 20:53:24 David Abrahams
wrote:
>> 
>> on Wed Jul 18 2007, Vladimir Prus
<ghost-AT-cs.msu.su> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Monday 16 July 2007 16:07:15 David Abrahams
wrote:
>> >
>> >> > On Monday 16 July 2007 06:53:08 David
Abrahams wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
http://lists.boost.org/boost-build/2007/01/16042.php
>> >> >
>> >> > So, you're saying that
>> >> >
>> >> >  msvc.configure 8.0 :
"<command>c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft
Visual Studio 8\VC\BIN\amd64\cl" 
>> >> > 	"<setup>C:\Program Files
(x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\VC\vcvarsall.bat" ;

>> >> >
>> >> > got msvc to produce 64 bit binaries
for you?	
>> >> 
>> >> If that's what the message above says,
then yes, that's what I'm saying.
>> >
>> > That's too windy logic for me. I'll take it as
"it's not confirmed that 64-bit msvc works".
>> 
>> Let me put it this way: my posting from January
referenced above
>> clearly (IMO) describes what I did to make it work.
 If you accurately
>> copied the stuff I did from that message into your
message, then I
>> confirm that's what it takes.  I'm not sure why
you're asking; was
>> there something unclear about the message from
January?
>
> I'm merely double-checking that the above line is all
that's needed to
> build 64-bit libraries, and that no important detail
got lost in
> communication.

Well, it's been since January.  I'd need to review the
message in just
as much detail as you in order to remember.  There was the
issue of
building a 64-bit bjam, but I think Rene has solved that by
now, and
it's sort of orthogonal anyway.

> I probably should have asked "does it work
now?".

AFAIK, yes.

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Hi !

An'n Dunnersdag 19 Juli 2007 hett David Abrahams schreven:
> on Wed Jul 18 2007, Vladimir Prus
<ghost-AT-cs.msu.su> wrote:
> > I probably should have asked "does it work
now?".
>
> AFAIK, yes.

Just one quick confirmation before I disappear on vacation:
Yes, it works. I build 64bit versions of 1.34.0 using

bjam stage threading=multi link=shared --layout=system
--toolset=msvc-8.0 --stagedir=stage64 address-model=64 

for both debug and release variant.
The bjam used is the 32bit version created by simply running
build.bat.

I hope this helps )

Yours,

Jürgen
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