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Bricolage in a Higher Ed. Environment
user name
2007-02-05 13:41:01
I am curious if there are any Bricolage users out there in a
higher ed
environment.  Because of the nature of the industry the
setup of the software
and maintenance is a bit different from our private sector
counterparts.  If
there is any interest in starting a more specific mailing
list or discussions
please email me directly.

Thank you,

Chris
cheilanduwb.edu

Chris Heiland
Web Developer
425.352.3658
Web Services
Information Systems, Campus Box 358540
University of Washington Bothell
Re: Bricolage in a Higher Ed. Environment
user name
2007-02-05 18:14:58
On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Chris Heiland wrote:
> I am curious if there are any Bricolage users out there
in a higher  
> ed environment.  Because of the nature of the industry
the setup of  
> the software and maintenance is a bit different from
our private  
> sector counterparts.

Here at at the University of Virginia's Virginia Quarterly
Review,  
we're running a beta Bricolate server -- we're currently on
a custom  
LAMP application.  Though no final decision has been made,
I'll be  
very surprised if we don't switch in the next few months. 
(My thanks  
to David Wheeler for his assistance -- he helped me persuade
my  
organization to look at Bricolage by making it possible for
me to  
demo it.)

On the topic of your post, just last week we moved from a
university  
host to a private host, and a significant element of that
decision  
was knowing that the university just couldn't deal with
Bricolage.   
We tried to work with them on it, and though there was one 

enthusiastic sysadmin, the department as a whole just wasn't
 
interested in modifying their practices to use something so
far off  
the beaten path.  It's the need for Apache 1 and an older
version of  
mod_perl that were major sticking points; something about
Fedora  
versions, supporting Ultra ATA hard drives and
"dependency hell."   
Our commercial host had to put in an enormous amount of work
to  
assemble a box that would support Bricolage but did manage
to pull it  
off in the end.

Best,
Waldo

---
One West Range, Box 400223
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904-4223

Re: Bricolage in a Higher Ed. Environment
user name
2007-02-06 04:48:23
I had been running a bricolage server for BMU website,
http://www-bmu.ps
ychiatry.cam.ac.uk for a good two years+ now.

Overall, with bricolage, the quality of the site improved.
Several users
have control over their own personal pages.

Users resistance is only to be expected, especially in an
environment where
there is no rigid top-down hierarchy. The key is to get the
top academics
(management tier) to buy in, and make sure that your
implementation is an
improvement to existing practice (e.g. easy to fill in
information about
their journal publication etc) for the academics who need to
manage/update
the site.

If you start experiment with bricolage, the best way to
start is to get a
basic bricolage working, i.e., say NO to all options when
installing. After
playing with it and gained experience, try the options that
you need before
building the full site.

HTH
Cinly

On 06/02/07, Waldo Jaquith <waldovirginia.edu> wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Chris Heiland wrote:
> > I am curious if there are any Bricolage users out
there in a higher
> > ed environment.  Because of the nature of the
industry the setup of
> > the software and maintenance is a bit different
from our private
> > sector counterparts.
>
> Here at at the University of Virginia's Virginia
Quarterly Review,
> we're running a beta Bricolate server -- we're
currently on a custom
> LAMP application.  Though no final decision has been
made, I'll be
> very surprised if we don't switch in the next few
months.  (My thanks
> to David Wheeler for his assistance -- he helped me
persuade my
> organization to look at Bricolage by making it possible
for me to
> demo it.)
>
> On the topic of your post, just last week we moved from
a university
> host to a private host, and a significant element of
that decision
> was knowing that the university just couldn't deal with
Bricolage.
> We tried to work with them on it, and though there was
one
> enthusiastic sysadmin, the department as a whole just
wasn't
> interested in modifying their practices to use
something so far off
> the beaten path.  It's the need for Apache 1 and an
older version of
> mod_perl that were major sticking points; something
about Fedora
> versions, supporting Ultra ATA hard drives and
"dependency hell."
> Our commercial host had to put in an enormous amount of
work to
> assemble a box that would support Bricolage but did
manage to pull it
> off in the end.
>
> Best,
> Waldo
>
> ---
> One West Range, Box 400223
> University of Virginia
> Charlottesville, VA 22904-4223
>



-- 
Best Regards,
Cinly
RE: Bricolage in a Higher Ed. Environment
user name
2007-02-06 11:05:29
I am curious if there are any Bricolage users out there in a
higher ed
environment.  Because of the nature of the industry the
setup of the software
and maintenance is a bit different from our private sector
counterparts.  If
there is any interest in starting a more specific mailing
list or discussions
please email me directly.

Thank you,

Chris
cheilanduwb.edu

Chris Heiland
Web Developer
425.352.3658
Web Services
Information Systems, Campus Box 358540
University of Washington Bothell


To give a bit of background on the story, we have an active
Bricolage
installation running our entire www website.  We finished
the full migration
in August and have over 40 active publishers in the system. 
The migration
was successful and right now we are in the midst of a major
template change
throughout the entire site.  

Without Bricolage we could not have accomplished either with
the minimal
amount of effort we enjoyed through the rollout.  I am
curious if anyone else
has similar stories or experiences in higher education and
would be
interested in starting a communication thread of some sort. 
With Educause
just around the corner this is certainly the time to start
thinking about
these things.

I noticed some of you replied with your experiences and I
thank you.  Is
there anyone else out there with similar experiences? 
Anyone wish to start a
mailing list?

Re: Bricolage in a Higher Ed. Environment
user name
2007-02-06 13:15:25
"Chris Heiland" <CHeilanduwb.edu> writes:
> I am curious if there are any Bricolage users out there
in a higher
> ed environment.  Because of the nature of the industry
the setup of
> the software and maintenance is a bit different from
our private
> sector counterparts.
> If there is any interest in starting a more
> specific mailing list or discussions please email me
directly.
> [...]
> I noticed some of you replied with your experiences and
I thank you.
> Is there anyone else out there with similar
experiences?  Anyone
> wish to start a mailing list?

I can't imagine yet why there should be different demands in
"higher
education". Anyway, or better, just *because* of that,
please don't
discuss it outside or in a new mailing list. I'm quite sure
it's
interesting to many other users of Bricolage.

GreetinX
Steffen 
-- 
Steffen Schwigon <schwigonwebit.de>
Dresden Perl Mongers <http://dresden-pm.org/>

Deutscher Perl-Workshop <http://www.perl-work
shop.de/>

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