Kineticode Business Changes

On Mar 16, 2007, at 14:02, Phillip Smith wrote:

> Enter the challenge: http://conte
nthere.blogspot.com/2007/03/ 
> changes-for-bricolage.html

Seth++



David	

On 16-Mar-07, at 12:12 AM, David E. Wheeler wrote:

>> Okay: so who wants to help plan the next -- first?
--  
>> BricolageCamp? Or Bricolage Boot Camp?
>>
>>   
>>
>> Background reading for those not up-to-speed on the
*Camp  
>> movement: http://en.wikipe
dia.org/wiki/Barcamp
>> Plone Boot Camp: http
://plone.org/events/training/plonebootcamps- 
>> plone-developer-bootcamp-2
>
> We can do it at OSCON if you like.

/me noodles that...

July 23rd - 27th in Portland:
http://conf
erences.oreillynet.com/os2007/

Actually, it makes me wonder if there's a way to get a sense
of where  
Bricolage developers / users are in the world? E.g., http://

www.frappr.com/firefoxusers  ... or even just listing our
City,  
State / Province, Country in the wiki somewhere?

Phillip.

-
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth

On Mar 20, 2007, at 05:27, Phillip Smith wrote:

> Actually, it makes me wonder if there's a way to get a
sense of  
> where Bricolage developers / users are in the world?
E.g., http:// 
> www.frappr.com/firefoxusers  ... or even just listing
our City,  
> State / Province, Country in the wiki somewhere?

Sure. Feel free to start a map on Frapper or Platial…

Best,

David

On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 08:27:29AM -0400, Phillip Smith
wrote:
> 
> On 16-Mar-07, at 12:12 AM, David E. Wheeler wrote:
> 
> >>Okay: so who wants to help plan the next --
first? --  
> >>BricolageCamp? Or Bricolage Boot Camp?
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>Background reading for those not up-to-speed on
the *Camp  
> >>movement: http://en.wikipe
dia.org/wiki/Barcamp
> >>Plone Boot Camp: http
://plone.org/events/training/plonebootcamps- 
> >>plone-developer-bootcamp-2
> >
> >We can do it at OSCON if you like.
> 
> /me noodles that...
> 
> July 23rd - 27th in Portland:
> http://conf
erences.oreillynet.com/os2007/
> 
> Actually, it makes me wonder if there's a way to get a
sense of where  
> Bricolage developers / users are in the world? E.g.,
http:// 
> www.frappr.com/firefoxusers  ... or even just listing
our City,  
> State / Province, Country in the wiki somewhere?

/me suggests a wiki -- it's simple and editable, and
viewable with lynx/w3m ;)

> Phillip.
> 
> -
> Phillip Smith,
> Simplifier of Technology
> Community Bandwidth
> 
> 

-- 

-bch
http://www.methodlogic.net

On Mar 20, 2007, at 10:50, brad harder wrote:

> /me suggests a wiki -- it's simple and editable, and
viewable with  
> lynx/w3m ;)

Sure. Though the cool thing about Platial's MapKit is that
we can  
embed it on the Bricolage site if we want:

   http://www.platial
.com/mapkit/more

Best,

David

On Mar 20, 2007, at 11:01, brad harder wrote:

>>   http://www.platial
.com/mapkit/more
>
> "Click here to download plugin." doesn't do
it for me ;).

Uh, where's that? I know these folks (we shared an office
with them  
till recently), so I can always bug them directly, but I'm
pretty  
sure it just generates some JavaScript to cut and paste.

Best,

David

David E. Wheeler wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2007, at 11:01, brad harder wrote:
> 
>>>   http://www.platial
.com/mapkit/more
>>
>> "Click here to download plugin." doesn't
do it for me ;).
> 
> Uh, where's that? I know these folks (we shared an
office with them till
> recently), so I can always bug them directly, but I'm
pretty sure it
> just generates some JavaScript to cut and paste.
> 
> Best,
> 
> David

The platial home and some other pages has some sort of video
that
requires a plugin: 
"/static/howtovids/MapKitDemo.mov"

- cameron

On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:55 PM, David E. Wheeler wrote:

>> /me suggests a wiki -- it's simple and editable,
and viewable with  
>> lynx/w3m ;)
>
> Sure. Though the cool thing about Platial's MapKit is
that we can  
> embed it on the Bricolage site if we want:
>
>   http://www.platial
.com/mapkit/more

I played with it a bit and found it a bit slow / cumbersome
to use.  
However, if you'd like to add one to the Bricolage site, I'd
 
certainly add my "place."  

On my end, I'll commit to cleaning up the user list in the
wiki --  
I'm thinking a sortable table with Name, Company /
Organization,  
City, Country, E-mail -- as long as Nate helps me with it. 
In fact,  
I'm wondering if Nate has any thoughts on taking the current
user  
list and formatting it as a table?

Knowing who and where users and developers are will
certainly help to  
build some community. I'm also wondering if we could create
some  
incentives around the creation of new articles on the
Bricolage site?  
The last "articles" published are from the 2004 -
5 time frame.

David: If we get 'em written, you're open to posting them on
 
www.bricolage.cc

Phillip.

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth

On Mar 21, 2007, at 08:41, Phillip Smith wrote:

> I played with it a bit and found it a bit slow /
cumbersome to use.  
> However, if you'd like to add one to the Bricolage
site, I'd  
> certainly add my "place."  

It was just a suggestion. I don't really have the bandwidth
to do it  
at the moment.

> On my end, I'll commit to cleaning up the user list in
the wiki --  
> I'm thinking a sortable table with Name, Company /
Organization,  
> City, Country, E-mail -- as long as Nate helps me with
it.  In  
> fact, I'm wondering if Nate has any thoughts on taking
the current  
> user list and formatting it as a table?

Nice.

> Knowing who and where users and developers are will
certainly help  
> to build some community. I'm also wondering if we could
create some  
> incentives around the creation of new articles on the
Bricolage  
> site? The last "articles" published are from
the 2004 - 5 time frame.
>
> David: If we get 'em written, you're open to posting
them on  
> www.bricolage.cc

Yes, of course. Marshall Roch, Dawn Buie, and Bret Dawson
can also  
post stories to the site.

Best,

David

Speaking of which, Phillip and Dawn and I have all chatted
on-and-off 
for a few months about putting together some more how-tos,
complete with 
a few sets of off-the-shelf templates (How to set up
Bricolage to run a 
news website, how to set up Bricolage to run a large
organization's 
public website how to set up Bricolage to output content in
formats such 
as PDF, and so on.)

The idea is basically to complement the existing
bricolage.cc templates, 
so that newcomers could pick the model that most closely
resembles their 
goal site, and then customize from there.

Obviously we haven't got too far with any of that, because
we're all 
busy. But everybody's busy all the time, and that's not
likely to 
change, so it's about time we made some time.

Assuming the idea has legs and people out there DO want to
see 
step-by-step guides (with templates included) for setting up
particular 
kinds of sites, what's a good site-type to start with? A
news 
publication? Corporate website? Something else?

Also: I'm late to chime in here, but let me add my voice to
the chorus. 
David, we've been lucky to have you. Thanks for all your
time and effort 
and help. I'm eager to start repaying your favours.

All the best,

Bret



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