Re: CMS Review: Bricolage on the Nautis Project

On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:54:55PM +0100, Simon Wilcox
wrote:
> brad harder wrote:
> 
> >>Even though there are some advantages to the
PostgreSQL database, most
> >>open source WCMS packages have redirected their
efforts at MySQL, Oracle,
> >>or Microsoft SQL Server.
> >
> >So?
> 
> If you already have mysql databases and dba skills,
acquiring another 
> one isn't much work but adopting a whole new database
engine certainly is.

How is this different than already running MySQL, and
needing MS SQL
Server? My point was that PostgreSQL does indeed have
advantages,
and no matter which DB you're familiar with, if you require
another,
you've got the predicament described by the author.

> >fta:
> >>In an already crowded marketplace, it is hard
to see how Bricolage will
> >>differentiate itself and reclaim the darling
status it held in the early
> >>WCMS days.
> >
> >Time will tell.
> 
> Effort will tell. And we all need to make more of it,
me included.

More people are working on this than you know if "we
all need to make more effort". ;) I think it'll still
take a bit more time before I feel that Bricolage has hit
it's organizational stride since the official departure of
David (though I might note that I've chatted with him on IRC
a few times, and he's still as pleasant as ever, and still
has lots of knowledge about Bric.) I'm looking forward to
what comes... I've got hopes. Will they be realized? Time
will tell.

> Simon.
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brad harder wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:54:55PM +0100, Simon Wilcox
wrote:
>> brad harder wrote:
>> 
>>>> Even though there are some advantages to
the PostgreSQL
>>>> database, most open source WCMS packages
have redirected their
>>>> efforts at MySQL, Oracle, or Microsoft SQL
Server.
>>> So?
>> If you already have mysql databases and dba skills,
acquiring
>> another one isn't much work but adopting a whole
new database
>> engine certainly is.
> 
> How is this different than already running MySQL, and
needing MS SQL 
> Server? My point was that PostgreSQL does indeed have
advantages, and
> no matter which DB you're familiar with, if you require
another, 
> you've got the predicament described by the author.

It isn't but mysql is more of a defacto standard, warts and
all.

http://sql-info
.de/mysql/gotchas.html

And quite a few OSS projects allow multiple RDBMS options so
you can
pick what works for you. Unless it's a rails app of course
in which case
you'd better drink the mysql koolaid 

>>> fta:
>>>> In an already crowded marketplace, it is
hard to see how
>>>> Bricolage will differentiate itself and
reclaim the darling
>>>> status it held in the early WCMS days.
>>> Time will tell.
>> Effort will tell. And we all need to make more of
it, me included.
> 
> More people are working on this than you know if
"we all need to make
> more effort". ;) I think it'll still take a bit
more time before I
> feel that Bricolage has hit it's organizational stride
since the
> official departure of David (though I might note that
I've chatted
> with him on IRC a few times, and he's still as pleasant
as ever, and
> still has lots of knowledge about Bric.) I'm looking
forward to what
> comes... I've got hopes. Will they be realized? Time
will tell.

I agree, I'm looking forward to it and looking for ways to
release more 
of our time to work on it too.

S.

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