Re: peculiar problem when creating media as related media

Basically, when we relate media (like, creating a new
photograph  
media with subelement 'related media') when clicking create
to relate  
the media instead of being sent back to the container media
we are  
taken to the new related media's properties page ...then no
matter  
how we save or publish that new media this still doesn't
take us back  
to the container media this is a relation on, but back to
the user  
workspace where we can see the original media we were trying
to  
create a relation on, and then editing it it has a relation
object  
created but no uri of the relation stored, and it itself
doesn't have  
a primary uri (it loses the original media?).  You cannot
then even  
relate the media you've created properly to it b/c it has no
primary  
uri and so errors.  You must create a new media object and
create a  
media relation on it with the already created
media...creating as you  
relate just doesn't work...

we have plenty of temp space

I'd just like to add to Terence's email regarding this media
relating
problem...

We have a system running 10.3 that does not have this
problem, however, that
system was upgraded from 10.2 and was not a freshly
installed OS, so certain
CPAN modules may be different versions than one would end up
with on a
freshly installed OS.  Also, we've set up the VMware bric
image 10.3 which
does not exhibit this problem.  However, on ANY OS that we
have installed
10.3 on since last June or so, this problem pops up.  This
includes ubuntu,
fedora, and centOS... and this includes systems that have
been set up on
different hardware by myself, Ryan O'Toole, and Terence.

I can see how some bric users may not be experiencing this
problem, either
because they have a system that has been smoothly upgraded
from previous
versions of bric and so haven't got the bad version of some
CPAN module (if
that's in fact what's to blame)... or perhaps people who
have installed new
10.3 systems don't have this issue because they don't have a
staff that
regularly creates new media objects as relations on stories
or other media
objects...

In any case, does anyone out there have any idea why this is
happening?  Is
it happening to anyone else?

Best,
John D.




On Dec 11, 2007 11:52 AM, Terence Bodola
<terence.bodolacbsparamount.com>
wrote:

> Basically, when we relate media (like, creating a new
photograph
> media with subelement 'related media') when clicking
create to relate
> the media instead of being sent back to the container
media we are
> taken to the new related media's properties page
...then no matter
> how we save or publish that new media this still
doesn't take us back
> to the container media this is a relation on, but back
to the user
> workspace where we can see the original media we were
trying to
> create a relation on, and then editing it it has a
relation object
> created but no uri of the relation stored, and it
itself doesn't have
> a primary uri (it loses the original media?).  You
cannot then even
> relate the media you've created properly to it b/c it
has no primary
> uri and so errors.  You must create a new media object
and create a
> media relation on it with the already created
media...creating as you
> relate just doesn't work...
>
> we have plenty of temp space
>

On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:02 PM, John Durkin wrote:

> However, on ANY OS that we have installed
> 10.3 on since last June or so, this problem pops up.

This happens on a "fresh" 1.10.3 install without
importing any  
templates or content?

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth

fresh 1.10.3 install, ubuntu or centos, no imported
templates or content

i can provide access to a test machine we've setup for
anyone  
interested -- just provide a contact method and i'll send
login (bric  
and host)

Terence Bodola
eonline.com and theinsideronline.com

On Dec 12, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Phillip Smith wrote:

>
> On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:02 PM, John Durkin wrote:
>
>> However, on ANY OS that we have installed
>> 10.3 on since last June or so, this problem pops
up.
>
> This happens on a "fresh" 1.10.3 install
without importing any  
> templates or content?
>
> --
> Phillip Smith,
> Simplifier of Technology
> Community Bandwidth
>
>

I know this is going to sound crazy, but have you tried
installing  
1.10.2 and then upgrading it to 1.10.3 ...?

On 12-Dec-07, at 11:15 AM, Terence Bodola wrote:

> fresh 1.10.3 install, ubuntu or centos, no imported
templates or  
> content
>
> i can provide access to a test machine we've setup for
anyone  
> interested -- just provide a contact method and i'll
send login  
> (bric and host)
>
> Terence Bodola
> eonline.com and theinsideronline.com
>
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Phillip Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:02 PM, John Durkin wrote:
>>
>>> However, on ANY OS that we have installed
>>> 10.3 on since last June or so, this problem
pops up.
>>
>> This happens on a "fresh" 1.10.3 install
without importing any  
>> templates or content?
>>
>> --
>> Phillip Smith,
>> Simplifier of Technology
>> Community Bandwidth
>>
>>
>

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth
http://www.community
bandwidth.ca

actually yes, and several other 'crazy' things, like
downgrading  
HTML::Mason to match the version on the working system ... i
also  
tried to compare the code changes from .2 to .3 and didn't
see how  
there would be anything that would cause this

and a fresh install of .2 had the same problem, if i recall 

correctly ...we've tried a number of install methods

On Dec 13, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Phillip Smith wrote:

>
> I know this is going to sound crazy, but have you tried
installing  
> 1.10.2 and then upgrading it to 1.10.3 ...?
>
> On 12-Dec-07, at 11:15 AM, Terence Bodola wrote:
>
>> fresh 1.10.3 install, ubuntu or centos, no imported
templates or  
>> content
>>
>> i can provide access to a test machine we've setup
for anyone  
>> interested -- just provide a contact method and
i'll send login  
>> (bric and host)
>>
>> Terence Bodola
>> eonline.com and theinsideronline.com
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Phillip Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:02 PM, John Durkin
wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, on ANY OS that we have installed
>>>> 10.3 on since last June or so, this problem
pops up.
>>>
>>> This happens on a "fresh" 1.10.3
install without importing any  
>>> templates or content?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phillip Smith,
>>> Simplifier of Technology
>>> Community Bandwidth
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Phillip Smith,
> Simplifier of Technology
> Community Bandwidth
> http://www.community
bandwidth.ca
>

On Dec 13, 2007, at 09:34, Terence Bodola wrote:

> actually yes, and several other 'crazy' things, like
downgrading  
> HTML::Mason to match the version on the working system
... i also  
> tried to compare the code changes from .2 to .3 and
didn't see how  
> there would be anything that would cause this
>
> and a fresh install of .2 had the same problem, if i
recall  
> correctly ...we've tried a number of install methods

Has anyone filed this as a bug yet?

   http://bugs.bricolage.cc/

Thanks,

David