Limiting category options when creating stories

Is there a way to limit what category options appear by
story/media
type?

In my case, we're putting most of our images under the
parent category
'images'. Within 'images' there are many subcategories.
We're doing this
because 1) we're trying to follow the current structure and
2) we reuse
images a lot so associating them to one story doesn't make
that much
sense.

But when one creates a new story, you have to wade through
all these
categories intended only for images. If possible, I'd like
to exclude
our image categories when creating/editing stories. Is this
possible
through permissions management?

Chris

-------------------

Chris Schults
Web Developer
PCC Natural Markets
206-547-1222 x104
chris.schultspccsea.com
http://www.pccnatura
lmarkets.com 

Anyone??? 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schults, Chris [mailto:chris.schultspccsea.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: userslists.bricolage.cc
> Subject: Limiting category options when creating
stories
> 
> Is there a way to limit what category options appear by
story/media
> type?
> 
> In my case, we're putting most of our images under the
parent category
> 'images'. Within 'images' there are many subcategories.
We're doing
> this
> because 1) we're trying to follow the current structure
and 2) we
reuse
> images a lot so associating them to one story doesn't
make that much
> sense.
> 
> But when one creates a new story, you have to wade
through all these
> categories intended only for images. If possible, I'd
like to exclude
> our image categories when creating/editing stories. Is
this possible
> through permissions management?
> 
> Chris
> 
> -------------------
> 
> Chris Schults
> Web Developer
> PCC Natural Markets
> 206-547-1222 x104
> chris.schultspccsea.com
> http://www.pccnatura
lmarkets.com

> I think this has been asked before -- limiting the
visible categories
> based on permissions -- and I don't think there's an
easy way to do it
> (unfortunately). However, just taking a guess here: if
it were a show-
> stopper, I suspect you could adjust the query that
produces the
> category list to exclude certain categories from the
results ....
> maybe even based on what profile is being used (media
or story).
> 
> I may be way off -- so hopefully others will correct me
if that's just
> "way out there."

Thanks Phillip, I was hoping this was possible outside of
modifying the
source code. I have to admit, permission management is the
one area of
Bricolage that I'm least familiar with.

As I understand it, I can limit what categories appear using
user
groups. For example, say I want to restrict my
communications manager to
managing stories of type 'News Release' within the category
'/about/news/'. I could create a user group called
'Communications' and
DENY all categories except '/about/news/', right? I'm
assuming that I
could also somehow limit what types of stories this user
group can
access.

While this solves my problem for discrete user groups, those
of us with
broader permissions would still need to wade through the
long list of
categories.

Chris 

On 19-Feb-08, at 1:43 PM, Beaudet, David P. wrote:

>
> The Bricolage source code required a modification to
restrict story  
> search results based on user permissions such as
categories.

Was that modification committed?


>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phillip Smith [mailto:phillipcommunitybandwidth.ca]
> Sent: Tue 2/19/2008 9:46 AM
> To: userslists.bricolage.cc
> Subject: Re: Limiting category options when creating
stories
>
>
> On 18-Feb-08, at 7:00 PM, Schults, Chris wrote:
>
>>> I think this has been asked before -- limiting
the visible  
>>> categories
>>> based on permissions -- and I don't think
there's an easy way to do
>>> it
>>> (unfortunately). However, just taking a guess
here: if it were a
>>> show-
>>> stopper, I suspect you could adjust the query
that produces the
>>> category list to exclude certain categories
from the results ....
>>> maybe even based on what profile is being used
(media or story).
>>>
>>> I may be way off -- so hopefully others will
correct me if that's
>>> just
>>> "way out there."
>>
>> Thanks Phillip, I was hoping this was possible
outside of modifying
>> the
>> source code. I have to admit, permission management
is the one area  
>> of
>> Bricolage that I'm least familiar with.
>>
>> As I understand it, I can limit what categories
appear using user
>> groups. For example, say I want to restrict my
communications
>> manager to
>> managing stories of type 'News Release' within the
category
>> '/about/news/'. I could create a user group called
'Communications'
>> and
>> DENY all categories except '/about/news/', right?
I'm assuming that I
>> could also somehow limit what types of stories this
user group can
>> access.
>>
>> While this solves my problem for discrete user
groups, those of us
>> with
>> broader permissions would still need to wade
through the long list of
>> categories.
>
>
> I was under the impression that restricting permission
prevented users
> from putting stories in those categories, but not
necessarily from
> seeing them. I have to admit some fuzziness in my
understanding of the
> breadth of Bricolage's permission system too ... so I
could be way off
> here. Either way, I look forward to your report back on
it!  
>
> Best,
>
> Phillip.
>
> --
> Phillip Smith,
> Simplifier of Technology
> Community Bandwidth
> http://www.community
bandwidth.ca
>
>
>
>
>

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth
http://www.community
bandwidth.ca

Hey there Chris,

I think this has been asked before -- limiting the visible
categories  
based on permissions -- and I don't think there's an easy
way to do it  
(unfortunately). However, just taking a guess here: if it
were a show- 
stopper, I suspect you could adjust the query that produces
the  
category list to exclude certain categories from the results
....  
maybe even based on what profile is being used (media or
story).

I may be way off -- so hopefully others will correct me if
that's just  
"way out there."



Phillip.

On 15-Feb-08, at 5:55 PM, Schults, Chris wrote:

> Anyone??? 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Schults, Chris [mailto:chris.schultspccsea.com]
>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:58 PM
>> To: userslists.bricolage.cc
>> Subject: Limiting category options when creating
stories
>>
>> Is there a way to limit what category options
appear by story/media
>> type?
>>
>> In my case, we're putting most of our images under
the parent  
>> category
>> 'images'. Within 'images' there are many
subcategories. We're doing
>> this
>> because 1) we're trying to follow the current
structure and 2) we
> reuse
>> images a lot so associating them to one story
doesn't make that much
>> sense.
>>
>> But when one creates a new story, you have to wade
through all these
>> categories intended only for images. If possible,
I'd like to exclude
>> our image categories when creating/editing stories.
Is this possible
>> through permissions management?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -------------------
>>
>> Chris Schults
>> Web Developer
>> PCC Natural Markets
>> 206-547-1222 x104
>> chris.schultspccsea.com
>> http://www.pccnatura
lmarkets.com

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth
http://www.community
bandwidth.ca

On 18-Feb-08, at 7:00 PM, Schults, Chris wrote:

>> I think this has been asked before -- limiting the
visible categories
>> based on permissions -- and I don't think there's
an easy way to do  
>> it
>> (unfortunately). However, just taking a guess here:
if it were a  
>> show-
>> stopper, I suspect you could adjust the query that
produces the
>> category list to exclude certain categories from
the results ....
>> maybe even based on what profile is being used
(media or story).
>>
>> I may be way off -- so hopefully others will
correct me if that's  
>> just
>> "way out there."
>
> Thanks Phillip, I was hoping this was possible outside
of modifying  
> the
> source code. I have to admit, permission management is
the one area of
> Bricolage that I'm least familiar with.
>
> As I understand it, I can limit what categories appear
using user
> groups. For example, say I want to restrict my
communications  
> manager to
> managing stories of type 'News Release' within the
category
> '/about/news/'. I could create a user group called
'Communications'  
> and
> DENY all categories except '/about/news/', right? I'm
assuming that I
> could also somehow limit what types of stories this
user group can
> access.
>
> While this solves my problem for discrete user groups,
those of us  
> with
> broader permissions would still need to wade through
the long list of
> categories.


I was under the impression that restricting permission
prevented users  
from putting stories in those categories, but not
necessarily from  
seeing them. I have to admit some fuzziness in my
understanding of the  
breadth of Bricolage's permission system too ... so I could
be way off  
here. Either way, I look forward to your report back on it! 


Best,

Phillip.

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth
http://www.community
bandwidth.ca

The Bricolage source code required a modification to
restrict story search results based on user permissions such
as categories.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Smith [mailto:phillipcommunitybandwidth.ca]
Sent: Tue 2/19/2008 9:46 AM
To: userslists.bricolage.cc
Subject: Re: Limiting category options when creating
stories
 

On 18-Feb-08, at 7:00 PM, Schults, Chris wrote:

>> I think this has been asked before -- limiting the
visible categories
>> based on permissions -- and I don't think there's
an easy way to do  
>> it
>> (unfortunately). However, just taking a guess here:
if it were a  
>> show-
>> stopper, I suspect you could adjust the query that
produces the
>> category list to exclude certain categories from
the results ....
>> maybe even based on what profile is being used
(media or story).
>>
>> I may be way off -- so hopefully others will
correct me if that's  
>> just
>> "way out there."
>
> Thanks Phillip, I was hoping this was possible outside
of modifying  
> the
> source code. I have to admit, permission management is
the one area of
> Bricolage that I'm least familiar with.
>
> As I understand it, I can limit what categories appear
using user
> groups. For example, say I want to restrict my
communications  
> manager to
> managing stories of type 'News Release' within the
category
> '/about/news/'. I could create a user group called
'Communications'  
> and
> DENY all categories except '/about/news/', right? I'm
assuming that I
> could also somehow limit what types of stories this
user group can
> access.
>
> While this solves my problem for discrete user groups,
those of us  
> with
> broader permissions would still need to wade through
the long list of
> categories.


I was under the impression that restricting permission
prevented users  
from putting stories in those categories, but not
necessarily from  
seeing them. I have to admit some fuzziness in my
understanding of the  
breadth of Bricolage's permission system too ... so I could
be way off  
here. Either way, I look forward to your report back on it! 


Best,

Phillip.

--
Phillip Smith,
Simplifier of Technology
Community Bandwidth
http://www.community
bandwidth.ca

On Feb 18, 2008, at 16:00, Schults, Chris wrote:

> As I understand it, I can limit what categories appear
using user
> groups. For example, say I want to restrict my
communications  
> manager to
> managing stories of type 'News Release' within the
category
> '/about/news/'. I could create a user group called
'Communications'  
> and
> DENY all categories except '/about/news/', right? I'm
assuming that I
> could also somehow limit what types of stories this
user group can
> access.

Yes, although in practice, I've never used DENY. If you give
them  
permission to the one category and to no others, and they're
not in  
any other user group, then they won't see the others.

> While this solves my problem for discrete user groups,
those of us  
> with
> broader permissions would still need to wade through
the long list of
> categories.

Yeah, there's the ruby, especially since the same users
needs to see  
different categories depending on whether they're editing
stories or  
media.

Best,

David

On Feb 19, 2008, at 06:46, Phillip Smith wrote:

> I was under the impression that restricting permission
prevented  
> users from putting stories in those categories, but not
necessarily  
> from seeing them. I have to admit some fuzziness in my
understanding  
> of the breadth of Bricolage's permission system too ...
so I could  
> be way off here. Either way, I look forward to your
report back on  
> it!  

You need READ permission to the category itself (via
category groups)  
to be able to add a story to it.

Best,

David