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RootCA encoding
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2006-09-15 19:22:18
From: Neil Chambers
Email: neilcozyspace.net
Subject: RootCA encoding

Message:
Hi there,

I'm having difficulties importing your rootCA into my
router. Apparently it will only accept base64 encoded
PKCS#10.

I've tried importing the root CA into IE and exporting it
as base64 but still no dice. Any chance you can make your CA
available in this format?

Cheers 

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RootCA encoding
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2006-09-15 22:10:47
Hi Neil,

Which router do you have? Do you have some manuals, you
could send me?
Screenshots?

> I'm having difficulties importing your rootCA into my
router. Apparently it
> will only accept base64 encoded PKCS#10.

PKCS#10 is a certificate request format, not a certificate
format.
Could it be that it is running it´s own CA, and you have to
submit PKCS#10 
requests for client certificates?

Or does it generate PKCS#10 requests, which you could submit
to a CA?

> I've tried importing the root CA into IE and exporting
it as base64 but
> still no dice. Any chance you can make your CA
available in this format?

This is base64 encoding:
http://www.cacer
t.org/certs/root.crt

Best regards,
Philipp

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RootCA encoding
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2006-09-16 21:24:49
Philipp Gühring wrote:
> Hi Neil,
> 
> Which router do you have? Do you have some manuals, you
could send me?
> Screenshots?

As Philipp would mention, you'll need to find out if the
router accepts 
4096 bit long certificate for the root cert.

-- 
Best regards,

Guillaume

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is a
nightmare.  -- Japanese Proverb

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2006-09-17 10:40:47
Philipp Gühring wrote:
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Hi Neil,

Which router do you have? Do you have some manuals, you could send me?
Screenshots?
  
It's a Draytek Vigor 2800VG.
Here is a link to VPN/Certificate setup: http://www.draytek.com/support/support_note/router/application/vpn_solution/5/01.php

(the setup only covers using a Microsoft Certificate Server authority)
futureware.at" type="cite">
  
I'm having difficulties importing your rootCA into my router. Apparently it
will only accept base64 encoded PKCS#10.
    

PKCS#10 is a certificate request format, not a certificate format.
Could it be that it is running it´s own CA, and you have to submit PKCS#10 
requests for client certificates?

Or does it generate PKCS#10 requests, which you could submit to a CA?
  
Forgive my relative lack of knowledge on this topic. I don't believe it is running a CA. I have an option to generate requests (which I have done - and processed via cacert successfully) and the option to store three trusted authorities. When I try to import the Base64 cacert root I get an error:

Fail ...
Maybe the certificate format is wrong or too big. Try again!!!!!!!!!!
futureware.at" type="cite">
  
I've tried importing the root CA into IE and exporting it as base64 but
still no dice. Any chance you can make your CA available in this format?
    

This is base64 encoding:
http://www.cacert.org/certs/root.crt
  
Still no joy. Here is a topic thread on the Draytek Forums:  http://www.draytek.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8114
futureware.at" type="cite">
Best regards,
Philipp

  
Thanks for the reply!

Neil
RootCA encoding
user name
2006-09-17 20:56:42
Hi Neil,

Ok, I have formated the certificate now in the way it might
work, and attached 
it as cacert.cer

Now you should follow the instructions on
http
://www.draytek.com/support/support_note/router/application/v
pn_solution/5/1.3_Trusted_CA_Certificate.pdf

But you have to skip the first part, and start at 1.3.9 (On
Vigor´s web 
configuration page, ...)



------------------

Charlie:
This is the technical data of our root certificate:
It uses MD5, RSA with 4096 Bits, and we are using SHA-1 for
all the user 
certificates.  And we have a couple of Netscape extensions,
but I don´t think 
that they would harm, since they aren´t critical.

Charlie, could you please verify whether the Draytek Vigor
2800VG supports 
such root certificates? We heard that Cisco has/had problems
with our 4096 
Bit key ...

Do you have a specification of the supported algorithms,
keysizes and 
parameters?

Certificate:
    Data:
        Version: 3 (0x2)
        Serial Number: 0 (0x0)
        Signature Algorithm: md5WithRSAEncryption
        Issuer: O=Root CA, OU=http://www.cacert.org,
CN=CA Cert Signing 
Authority/emailAddress=supportcacert.org
        Validity
            Not Before: Mar 30 12:29:49 2003 GMT
            Not After : Mar 29 12:29:49 2033 GMT
        Subject: O=Root CA, OU=http://www.cacert.org,
CN=CA Cert Signing 
Authority/emailAddress=supportcacert.org
        Subject Public Key Info:
            Public Key Algorithm: rsaEncryption
            RSA Public Key: (4096 bit)
                Modulus (4096 bit):
                   
00:ce:22:c0:e2:46:7d:ec:36:28:07:50:96:f2:a0:
                   e5:a1:0b
[...]
                Exponent: 65537 (0x10001)
        X509v3 extensions:
            X509v3 Subject Key Identifier:
                16:B5:32:1B4:C7:F3:
E0:E6:8E:F3:BD2:B0:3A:
EE:B2:39:181
            X509v3 Authority Key Identifier:
                
keyid:16:B5:32:1B4:C7:F3:
E0:E6:8E:F3:BD2:B0:3A:
EE:B2:39:181
                DirName:/O=Root CA/OU=http://www.cacert.org/CN=
CA Cert Signing 
Authority/emailAddress=supportcacert.org
                serial:00

            X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical
                CA:TRUE
            X509v3 CRL Distribution Points:
                URI:https://www.cacert.
org/revoke.crl

            Netscape CA Revocation Url:
                https://www.cacert.
org/revoke.crl
            Netscape CA Policy Url:
                http://www.cace
rt.org/index.php?id=10
            Netscape Comment:
                To get your own certificate for FREE head
over to 
http://www.cacert.org
    Signature Algorithm: md5WithRSAEncryption
       
28:c7:ee:9c:82:02:ba:5c:80:12:ca:35:0a:1d:81:6f:89:6a:
[...]


Best regards,
Philipp Gühring
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RootCA encoding
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2006-09-17 21:37:07
Philipp Gühring wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> Ok, I have formated the certificate now in the way it
might work, and attached 
> it as cacert.cer
<snip>
> Charlie:
> This is the technical data of our root certificate:
> It uses MD5, RSA with 4096 Bits, and we are using SHA-1
for all the user 
> certificates.  And we have a couple of Netscape
extensions, but I don´t think 
> that they would harm, since they aren´t critical.
>
> Charlie, could you please verify whether the Draytek
Vigor 2800VG supports 
> such root certificates? We heard that Cisco has/had
problems with our 4096 
> Bit key ...
>
> Do you have a specification of the supported
algorithms, keysizes and 
> parameters?
<snip>

Philipp,

Many thanks for such a quick response to this issue!

Unfortunately the certificate import failed.

Charlie, the import failed with the same error as before.

All the very best,
Neil


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