Subscriptions module

Sorry to disapoint you. It is possible to remove it from the
cronjob,
but not on shared environment, because it would remove the
job from all
instances.

Ondra

On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:12 +0200, patrick wright wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> 
> I am dealing with a system that has a custom
subscription system. Now
> we have upgraded to version 2.6.1 and as I am reading
through the
> documentation, I am wondering about whether there is an
automatic cron
> type job which will send out reminders and reduced paid
days etc etc.
> If there is, is it possible to switch it off ?
> patrick wright
> 
> RockSolid Systems
> 
> +27 82 652 7474
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Mugur might be better in explaining, but the standardjob
runs each 15
minutes. It checks all subscriptions and those users, that
are 14 days
before expiration are notified.
Than the user is marked up as "already notified"
and next run it he is
skipped.

I am unsure if there is some 2nd level notification in 7
days prior
expiration.

Ondra

On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:52 +0200, patrick wright wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> How frequently does the cron run and, in terms of
subscriptions, what
> does it actually do ?
> patrick wright
> 
> RockSolid Systems
> 
> +27 82 652 7474
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04 Sep 2006, at 4:22 PM, Ondra Koutek wrote:
> 
> > Sorry to disapoint you. It is possible to remove
it from the
> > cronjob,
> > but not on shared environment, because it would
remove the job from
> > all
> > instances.
> > 
> > 
> > Ondra
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:12 +0200, patrick wright
wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am dealing with a system that has a custom
subscription system.
> > > Now
> > > we have upgraded to version 2.6.1 and as I am
reading through the
> > > documentation, I am wondering about whether
there is an automatic
> > > cron
> > > type job which will send out reminders and
reduced paid days etc
> > > etc.
> > > If there is, is it possible to switch it off
?
> > > patrick wright
> > > 
> > > 
> > > RockSolid Systems
> > > 
> > > 
> > > +27 82 652 7474
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 

The subscription end notifier runs every 8 hours and sends
the following
message to the readers whose subscription will end within 14
days:


"Dear <reader>,

This is an automatically generated e-mail message. Your
<subs_type>
subscription (started on <start_date>) to publication
<publication> will expire
on <date> (in <number> days).

Please enter the site http://<pub_site>
to update subscription."


Mugur

--- Ondra Koutek <koutekotol.org> wrote:
> Mugur might be better in explaining, but the
standardjob runs each 15
> minutes. It checks all subscriptions and those users,
that are 14 days
> before expiration are notified.
> Than the user is marked up as "already
notified" and next run it he is
> skipped.
> 
> I am unsure if there is some 2nd level notification in
7 days prior
> expiration.
> 
> Ondra
> 
> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:52 +0200, patrick wright
wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > 
> > How frequently does the cron run and, in terms of
subscriptions, what
> > does it actually do ?
> > patrick wright
> > 
> > RockSolid Systems
> > 
> > +27 82 652 7474
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 04 Sep 2006, at 4:22 PM, Ondra Koutek wrote:
> > 
> > > Sorry to disapoint you. It is possible to
remove it from the
> > > cronjob,
> > > but not on shared environment, because it
would remove the job from
> > > all
> > > instances.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ondra
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:12 +0200, patrick
wright wrote:
> > > > Hi.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am dealing with a system that has a
custom subscription system.
> > > > Now
> > > > we have upgraded to version 2.6.1 and as
I am reading through the
> > > > documentation, I am wondering about
whether there is an automatic
> > > > cron
> > > > type job which will send out reminders
and reduced paid days etc
> > > > etc.
> > > > If there is, is it possible to switch it
off ?
> > > > patrick wright
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > RockSolid Systems
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > +27 82 652 7474
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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--- patrick wright <patrickrocksolidsystems.biz>
wrote:
> What is the algorithm used to calculate when a
subscription is about expire?
subscription end date = start date + days
notification time = subscription end date - 14 days

> What are the definitions of 'paid days' and 'days',
for the users'  
> subscription records ?
days = subscription time
paid days = how many days were actually paid from the
subscription time

You may want to set "paid days" =
"days" from the beginning; this feature was
implemented with the idea that you can create an inactive
subscription which is
not paid yet and after the payment was received you can
activate it (set the
paid days to the subscription time). If paid days = 0 then
the reader will not
have access to private content. The reader actually has
access to the private
content for the period: start date -> start date + paid
days.

Hope this helps,
Mugur

> As this customized system makes use of the fields on
these tables, I  
> need to make sure that they are set to the correct
values...
> patrick wright
> RockSolid Systems
> 
> +27 82 652 7474
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04 Sep 2006, at 6:11 PM, Mugur Rus wrote:
> 
> > The subscription end notifier runs every 8 hours
and sends the  
> > following
> > message to the readers whose subscription will end
within 14 days:
> >
> >
> > "Dear <reader>,
> >
> > This is an automatically generated e-mail message.
Your <subs_type>
> > subscription (started on <start_date>) to
publication <publication>  
> > will expire
> > on <date> (in <number> days).
> >
> > Please enter the site http://<pub_site>
to update subscription."
> >
> >
> > Mugur
> >
> > --- Ondra Koutek <koutekotol.org> wrote:
> >> Mugur might be better in explaining, but the
standardjob runs each 15
> >> minutes. It checks all subscriptions and those
users, that are 14  
> >> days
> >> before expiration are notified.
> >> Than the user is marked up as "already
notified" and next run it  
> >> he is
> >> skipped.
> >>
> >> I am unsure if there is some 2nd level
notification in 7 days prior
> >> expiration.
> >>
> >> Ondra
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:52 +0200, patrick
wright wrote:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How frequently does the cron run and, in
terms of subscriptions,  
> >>> what
> >>> does it actually do ?
> >>> patrick wright
> >>>
> >>> RockSolid Systems
> >>>
> >>> +27 82 652 7474
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 04 Sep 2006, at 4:22 PM, Ondra Koutek
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sorry to disapoint you. It is possible
to remove it from the
> >>>> cronjob,
> >>>> but not on shared environment, because
it would remove the job from
> >>>> all
> >>>> instances.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ondra
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:12 +0200,
patrick wright wrote:
> >>>>> Hi.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am dealing with a system that
has a custom subscription system.
> >>>>> Now
> >>>>> we have upgraded to version 2.6.1
and as I am reading through the
> >>>>> documentation, I am wondering
about whether there is an automatic
> >>>>> cron
> >>>>> type job which will send out
reminders and reduced paid days etc
> >>>>> etc.
> >>>>> If there is, is it possible to
switch it off ?
> >>>>> patrick wright
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RockSolid Systems
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +27 82 652 7474
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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--- patrick wright <patrickrocksolidsystems.biz>
wrote:
> thanks for this ... this probably sounds a bit odd, but
here goes ..  
> is the value in the field 'paid days' exactly that- a
number of days ?
Yes

> so if the system were to grant 10 issues and the time
unit was  
> months, it would add 10*(approx) 30 days ... in the
vicinity of  
> 300 .... to the value in 'paid days' and set the
start date to today ?
Yes

> another question :
> does the system automatically decrement 'paid days' ?
No, it doesn't need to decrement paid days because it
knows:
1. the subscription end date: start date + paid days
2. the current date
When the current date > end date the subscription is
over. Paid days is not the
same as days left from the subscription.

> sorry about all of these queries ... you can point me
to the source  
> if you like .. or relevant documentation, i have gone
through the  
> manual and the api classes ..
It's not documented yet and we will change this system in
time, it's 7 years
old and it shows it's limitations.

Regards,
Mugur

> patrick wright
> 
> RockSolid Systems
> 
> +27 82 652 7474
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 04 Sep 2006, at 9:52 PM, Mugur Rus wrote:
> 
> > --- patrick wright <patrickrocksolidsystems.biz> wrote:
> >> What is the algorithm used to calculate when a
subscription is  
> >> about expire?
> > subscription end date = start date + days
> > notification time = subscription end date - 14
days
> >
> >> What are the definitions of 'paid days' and
'days', for the users'
> >> subscription records ?
> > days = subscription time
> > paid days = how many days were actually paid from
the subscription  
> > time
> >
> > You may want to set "paid days" =
"days" from the beginning; this  
> > feature was
> > implemented with the idea that you can create an
inactive  
> > subscription which is
> > not paid yet and after the payment was received
you can activate it  
> > (set the
> > paid days to the subscription time). If paid days
= 0 then the  
> > reader will not
> > have access to private content. The reader
actually has access to  
> > the private
> > content for the period: start date -> start
date + paid days.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Mugur
> >
> >> As this customized system makes use of the
fields on these tables, I
> >> need to make sure that they are set to the
correct values...
> >> patrick wright
> >> RockSolid Systems
> >>
> >> +27 82 652 7474
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 04 Sep 2006, at 6:11 PM, Mugur Rus wrote:
> >>
> >>> The subscription end notifier runs every 8
hours and sends the
> >>> following
> >>> message to the readers whose subscription
will end within 14 days:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Dear <reader>,
> >>>
> >>> This is an automatically generated e-mail
message. Your <subs_type>
> >>> subscription (started on
<start_date>) to publication <publication>
> >>> will expire
> >>> on <date> (in <number> days).
> >>>
> >>> Please enter the site http://<pub_site>
to update subscription."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mugur
> >>>
> >>> --- Ondra Koutek <koutekotol.org> wrote:
> >>>> Mugur might be better in explaining,
but the standardjob runs  
> >>>> each 15
> >>>> minutes. It checks all subscriptions
and those users, that are 14
> >>>> days
> >>>> before expiration are notified.
> >>>> Than the user is marked up as
"already notified" and next run it
> >>>> he is
> >>>> skipped.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am unsure if there is some 2nd level
notification in 7 days prior
> >>>> expiration.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ondra
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:52 +0200,
patrick wright wrote:
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How frequently does the cron run
and, in terms of subscriptions,
> >>>>> what
> >>>>> does it actually do ?
> >>>>> patrick wright
> >>>>>
> >>>>> RockSolid Systems
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +27 82 652 7474
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04 Sep 2006, at 4:22 PM, Ondra
Koutek wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry to disapoint you. It is
possible to remove it from the
> >>>>>> cronjob,
> >>>>>> but not on shared environment,
because it would remove the job  
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>> instances.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ondra
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 15:12
+0200, patrick wright wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am dealing with a system
that has a custom subscription  
> >>>>>>> system.
> >>>>>>> Now
> >>>>>>> we have upgraded to
version 2.6.1 and as I am reading through  
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> documentation, I am
wondering about whether there is an  
> >>>>>>> automatic
> >>>>>>> cron
> >>>>>>> type job which will send
out reminders and reduced paid days etc
> >>>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>> If there is, is it
possible to switch it off ?
> >>>>>>> patrick wright
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RockSolid Systems
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> +27 82 652 7474
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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