plat_forms contest started -- user feedback requested

Hi,

Thank you for giving me a reminder  I was
certainly going to be
available for reviews today.

Best luck to "our" teams 

Regards,
Boris

On 25/01/07, Alvar Freude <alvara-blast.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as mentioned some time ago, there is the plat_forms
contest, see
> <http://www.plat-forms.
org/>
>
>
> All teams got their task two hours ago and now have 28
hours left 
>
> You can support the teams by user feedback. The teams
will post the URLs of
> their work on the plat_forms blog:
>
>   <http://www.pl
at-forms.org/2007/blog>
>
>
> Perl teams are:
>
>   Team 1 (Etat de Genève/Optaros)
>   Team 2 (plusW)
>   Team 5 (Revolution Systems)
>
> <http://w
ww.plat-forms.org/2007/the-teams>
>
> There are also three PHP and Java teams. No Ruby,
Python and .NET teams,
> because there where not enough teams.
>
>
> >From the task description:
>
>   "PbT (People by Temperament) is a simple
community portal
>    where members can find others with whom they might
like
>    to get in contact: people register to become
members,
>    take a personality test, and then search for others
based
>    on criteria such as personality types,
likes/dislikes etc.
>    Members can then get in contect with one another if
both
>    choose to do so.
>    The system has both an interactice user interface
via
>    HTML pagesand a WDL/SOAP-based programmatic
interface."
>
>
> The intro slides with some information are here:
>
> <http://www.plat-forms.org/2007/documents/task-intro>
>
>
> The community may help the teams by giving user
feedback and usual
> community support. Helping coding is not allowed 
>
>
>
> Ciao
>   Alvar
>
>
>
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neat. any idea what if any teams are using cat?

On 1/25/07, Boris Ćeranić <zextragmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you for giving me a reminder  I was
certainly going to be
> available for reviews today.
>
> Best luck to "our" teams 
>
> Regards,
> Boris
>
> On 25/01/07, Alvar Freude <alvara-blast.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > as mentioned some time ago, there is the
plat_forms contest, see
> > <http://www.plat-forms.
org/>
> >
> >
> > All teams got their task two hours ago and now
have 28 hours left 
> >
> > You can support the teams by user feedback. The
teams will post the URLs of
> > their work on the plat_forms blog:
> >
> >   <http://www.pl
at-forms.org/2007/blog>
> >
> >
> > Perl teams are:
> >
> >   Team 1 (Etat de Genève/Optaros)
> >   Team 2 (plusW)
> >   Team 5 (Revolution Systems)
> >
> > <http://w
ww.plat-forms.org/2007/the-teams>
> >
> > There are also three PHP and Java teams. No Ruby,
Python and .NET teams,
> > because there where not enough teams.
> >
> >
> > >From the task description:
> >
> >   "PbT (People by Temperament) is a simple
community portal
> >    where members can find others with whom they
might like
> >    to get in contact: people register to become
members,
> >    take a personality test, and then search for
others based
> >    on criteria such as personality types,
likes/dislikes etc.
> >    Members can then get in contect with one
another if both
> >    choose to do so.
> >    The system has both an interactice user
interface via
> >    HTML pagesand a WDL/SOAP-based programmatic
interface."
> >
> >
> > The intro slides with some information are here:
> >
> > <http://www.plat-forms.org/2007/documents/task-intro>
> >
> >
> > The community may help the teams by giving user
feedback and usual
> > community support. Helping coding is not allowed

> >
> >
> >
> > Ciao
> >   Alvar
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ** Alvar C.H. Freude, http://alvar.a-blast.org/
> > ** http://www.wen-waehlen.de/

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> >
> >
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On 25 Jan 2007, at 15:25, Daniel McBrearty wrote:

> neat. any idea what if any teams are using cat?

Yes, along with DBIx:ataModel


The other two teams are using Gantry + DBIx::Class and Mason
+  
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On 1/25/07, Alvar Freude <alvara-blast.org> wrote:
> All teams got their task two hours ago and now have 28
hours left 
>
> You can support the teams by user feedback. The teams
will post the URLs of
> their work on the plat_forms blog:
>
>   <http://www.pl
at-forms.org/2007/blog>

Apparently, Team 6 (a PHP one) was the first one to have a
working prototype.

Unfortunately, I was just trying registering and it seems
someone
already hacked it.
Here's what the screen looked like after trying
registering:

  http://w
ww.nilson.org/images/team6hacked.jpg

I hope the Perl/Catalyst teams are not as ill-fated as this
one.

-Nilson Santos F. Jr.

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heh. well, I gues that it is "feedback" ... of a
sort ...

which team is using cat?

kind of dumb to make the stuff public too soon. I thought
the best
response to the "when will you go public question"
was "not before
Friday morning" ...

On 1/25/07, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior <acid06gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/25/07, Alvar Freude <alvara-blast.org> wrote:
> > All teams got their task two hours ago and now
have 28 hours left 
> >
> > You can support the teams by user feedback. The
teams will post the URLs of
> > their work on the plat_forms blog:
> >
> >   <http://www.pl
at-forms.org/2007/blog>
>
> Apparently, Team 6 (a PHP one) was the first one to
have a working prototype.
>
> Unfortunately, I was just trying registering and it
seems someone
> already hacked it.
> Here's what the screen looked like after trying
registering:
>
>   http://w
ww.nilson.org/images/team6hacked.jpg
>
> I hope the Perl/Catalyst teams are not as ill-fated as
this one.
>
> -Nilson Santos F. Jr.
>
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It would be interesting to see how are they going to survive
30 hours
of work... Are they going to catch some sleep at all,
etc...

On 25/01/07, Daniel McBrearty <danielmcbreartygmail.com> wrote:
> heh. well, I gues that it is "feedback" ...
of a sort ...
>
> which team is using cat?
>
> kind of dumb to make the stuff public too soon. I
thought the best
> response to the "when will you go public
question" was "not before
> Friday morning" ...
>
> On 1/25/07, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior
<acid06gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 1/25/07, Alvar Freude <alvara-blast.org> wrote:
> > > All teams got their task two hours ago and
now have 28 hours left 
> > >
> > > You can support the teams by user feedback.
The teams will post the URLs of
> > > their work on the plat_forms blog:
> > >
> > >   <http://www.pl
at-forms.org/2007/blog>
> >
> > Apparently, Team 6 (a PHP one) was the first one
to have a working prototype.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I was just trying registering and
it seems someone
> > already hacked it.
> > Here's what the screen looked like after trying
registering:
> >
> >   http://w
ww.nilson.org/images/team6hacked.jpg
> >
> > I hope the Perl/Catalyst teams are not as
ill-fated as this one.
> >
> > -Nilson Santos F. Jr.
> >
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>
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On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:50, Boris Ćeranić wrote:

> It would be interesting to see how are they going to
survive 30 hours
> of work... Are they going to catch some sleep at all,
etc...

30hrs isn't really that much for a dev burn - I've pulled
shifts that  
long pretty often during heavy hacking without a problem.
It's when  
you get to around the 3 day mark without having had more
than a  
couple hours sleep that it starts to get painful.

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* Matt S Trout <dbix-classtrout.me.uk> [2007-01-25
18:20]:
> On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:50, Boris Ćeranić wrote:
> >It would be interesting to see how are they going
to survive
> >30 hours of work... Are they going to catch some
sleep at all,
> >etc...
> 
> 30hrs isn't really that much for a dev burn - I've
pulled
> shifts that  long pretty often during heavy hacking
without a
> problem. It's when  you get to around the 3 day mark
without
> having had more than a  couple hours sleep that it
starts to
> get painful.

The really bad thing is not a single 30-hour day, it’s
when
you’re doing a long string of 12- to 18-hour days.

Sleep deprivation when well rested is actually documented
to
have a bunch of psychotropic effects including mild
euphoria.
Anyone who has stayed up long enough to get a weird sense
of
humour knows this first hand.

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On 25/01/07, Matt S Trout <dbix-classtrout.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:50, Boris Æeraniæ wrote:
>
> > It would be interesting to see how are they going
to survive 30 hours
> > of work... Are they going to catch some sleep at
all, etc...
>
> 30hrs isn't really that much for a dev burn - I've
pulled shifts that
> long pretty often during heavy hacking without a
problem. It's when
> you get to around the 3 day mark without having had
more than a
> couple hours sleep that it starts to get painful.

It's not  impossible, I know it myself as well, but things
change a
lot when you stabilise yourself (getting up in the morning,
and
sleeping during the night)... It takes some time to be able
to pull 2
day shifts.

Another questions is concentration as well as productivity
rate during
shifts longer than 16 hours.

>
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