Installonlyn plugin for yum

Hi,

please include yum-plugin-installonlyn package in Extras.
This plugin is
a part of yum-2.6 in Fedora Core 5 and works great:

http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm

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On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 12:11 +0200, Milan Keršláger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> please include yum-plugin-installonlyn package in
Extras. This plugin is
> a part of yum-2.6 in Fedora Core 5 and works great:
> 
> http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm
> 

This is already in the yum-utils package that is in the
extras
repository.  It is just not built as a separate package.

There are instructions on how to enable it in
/usr/share/doc/yum-
utils-0.5/plugins/README.centos

I guess that we could split it out and make it a standalone
package.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
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On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:35:23AM -0500, Johnny Hughes
wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 12:11 +0200, Milan Ker¹láger
wrote:
> > 
> > please include yum-plugin-installonlyn package in
Extras. This plugin is
> > a part of yum-2.6 in Fedora Core 5 and works
great:
> > 
> > http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm
> 
> This is already in the yum-utils package that is in the
extras
> repository.  It is just not built as a separate
package.
> 
> There are instructions on how to enable it in
/usr/share/doc/yum-
> utils-0.5/plugins/README.centos
> 
> I guess that we could split it out and make it a
standalone package.

Or better follow Fedora Core and put it into the yum
package.

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Milan Ker¹láger wrote:
>>> http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm
>> This is already in the yum-utils package that is in
the extras
>> repository.  It is just not built as a separate
package.
>>
>> There are instructions on how to enable it in
/usr/share/doc/yum-
>> utils-0.5/plugins/README.centos
>>
>> I guess that we could split it out and make it a
standalone package.
> 
> Or better follow Fedora Core and put it into the yum
package.
> 

we could pull it into the main package, but it would need to
stay
disabled - its too major a change in functionality to throw
at people
midway during the release.

I am going to vote for a seperate package instead - that can
be
installed directly, so something in CentOS-Extras.

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On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:57:47AM +0100, Karanbir Singh
enlightened us:
> Milan Ker?láger wrote:
> >>> http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm
> >> This is already in the yum-utils package that
is in the extras
> >> repository.  It is just not built as a
separate package.
> >>
> >> There are instructions on how to enable it in
/usr/share/doc/yum-
> >> utils-0.5/plugins/README.centos
> >>
> >> I guess that we could split it out and make it
a standalone package.
> > 
> > Or better follow Fedora Core and put it into the
yum package.
> > 
> 
> we could pull it into the main package, but it would
need to stay
> disabled - its too major a change in functionality to
throw at people
> midway during the release.
> 
> I am going to vote for a seperate package instead -
that can be
> installed directly, so something in CentOS-Extras.

That makes the most sense to me. In CentOS 5 it could be
folded back into
the main package if desired for closer tracking of FC
without causing too
much of a disruption.

Matt

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On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:57:47AM +0100, Karanbir Singh
wrote:
> Milan Ker¹láger wrote:
> >>> http://ftp.pslib.cz/pub/users/Milan.Kerslager/RHEL-4/stabl
e/SRPMS/yum-plugin-installonlyn-0.90-1.ker.rhel4.src.rpm
> >> This is already in the yum-utils package that
is in the extras
> >> repository.  It is just not built as a
separate package.
> >>
> >> There are instructions on how to enable it in
/usr/share/doc/yum-
> >> utils-0.5/plugins/README.centos
> >>
> >> I guess that we could split it out and make it
a standalone package.
> > 
> > Or better follow Fedora Core and put it into the
yum package.
> 
> we could pull it into the main package, but it would
need to stay
> disabled - its too major a change in functionality to
throw at people
> midway during the release.

It is not needed. Updates brings change in functionality
every time are
released (even from upstream).

This is security enhancement also. Imagine that system boot
with older
kernel by mistake - this open the door for script kiddies
(or hackers).

So put it in and don't ask. Only write about it in the
release info.

> I am going to vote for a seperate package instead -
that can be
> installed directly, so something in CentOS-Extras.

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Milan Ker¹láger wrote:
>>>> I guess that we could split it out and make
it a standalone package.
>>> Or better follow Fedora Core and put it into
the yum package.
>> we could pull it into the main package, but it
would need to stay
>> disabled - its too major a change in functionality
to throw at people
>> midway during the release.
> 
> It is not needed. Updates brings change in
functionality every time are
> released (even from upstream).
> 
> This is security enhancement also. Imagine that system
boot with older
> kernel by mistake - this open the door for script
kiddies (or hackers).

you have a valid point in that its a new point release, and
its ok to
add functionality this way, BUT the issue is that there are
admins out
there who would rely on having a stable distro - where
functionality to
automatically start removing stuff does not get introduced
midway.

And that is where my issue is - I dont want to introduce
something
middway that will start removing packages automatically.

> 
> So put it in and don't ask. Only write about it in the
release info.
> 

we can mention the availability of this plugin in the
release notes,
would you like to do a small writeup of maybe 1 paragraph on
this ? we
can then include that into the release notes perhaps ?

If the other centos developers agree, I see no harm in
adding some info
about the existance of this plugin and what it would
achieve.

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> If the other centos developers agree, I see no harm in
adding some info
> about the existance of this plugin and what it would
achieve.

concur +1

- Russ Herrold
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