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Re: Re: CentOS5 virtual machine image
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 2007-01-25 20:41:53 

  


  

    Am Donnerstag, den 25.01.2007, 21:31 +0100 schrieb Daniel de Kok: 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:54:13 +0100
> Nils Toedtmann nils.toedtmann.net> wrote:
> > glibc and db4 have to be 
> > patched/rebuilt because of NPTL incompatibilities.
> 
> Upstream is working on domainU support for their 4 branch, so that will
> probably not be a problem in the future.


Great news! (Who is "upstream" - RedHat? Do they backport the
nptl-patches from RHEL5?)


> > Sure (i hope i know what you mean with "role"). Could be done by empty
> > meta-packages like ubuntu's "{,k,x}ubuntu-desktop".
> 
> I like the approach that is taken with FC6 live CD's, they use some
> meta packages that pull in all dependencies for a "role".


Me too, it's the same approach as ubuntu's. It's more appropriate than
the "groupinstall" method.


> [...] The live CD scripts, as-is don't work on CentOS 4. But when I
> looked into it the required changes were fairly trivial (sorry, I don't
> have patches for the work I had done).

What are the advantages over virt-install (part of virt-manager) you
mentioned in the other post?

> > Don't forget all those not using CentOS - yet!
> 
> I'd say, develop the build framework for C4 and possibly C3, and
> retrofit it to C5 if it works. [...]

Isn't that breaking a fly on the wheel? I just supposed some officially
released, polished sample-images running on as many VMMs and Host-OSes

as possible. That could be done by a shell script of a few dozens lines
or by calling virt-install with a nice kickstart.

Just my 2ct, /nils.

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    Re:  Re: CentOS5 virtual machine image
  


  

     user name

     2007-01-26 02:44:51
  


  

    

  


  

    On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:41:53 +0100
Nils Toedtmann nils.toedtmann.net> wrote:
> What are the advantages over virt-install (part of virt-manager) you
> mentioned in the other post?

In that the CentOS team (and others) could use it to build LiveCD/VM

images, possibly in one run. My idea was a generalized build
tool/framework that one could use to build different kind of images.
That would IMO be far more useful than just another script that does
just one thing.

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     user name

     2007-01-28 12:42:51
  


  

    
Nils Toedtmann wrote:
> Great news! (Who is "upstream" - RedHat? Do
they backport the
> nptl-patches from RHEL5?)

upstream is redhat.

>>> Sure (i hope i know what you mean with
"role"). Could be done by empty
>>> meta-packages like ubuntu's
"{,k,x}ubuntu-desktop".
>> I like the approach that is taken with FC6 live
CD's, they use some
>> meta packages that pull in all dependencies for a
"role".
> 
> Me too, it's the same approach as ubuntu's. It's more
appropriate than
> the "groupinstall" method.

why is it more appropriate ? it sounds more of a kludge to
achieve 
something with a package manager unable to support groups
directly. 
Since yum can, we should use groupinstall and group/* to
manage such stuff.

remember that group/* functionality need not only come from
the core 
distro repo, its can be added via addon repo's as well.

 >I just supposed some officially
> released, polished sample-images running on as many
VMMs and Host-OSes
> as possible. That could be done by a shell script of a
few dozens lines
> or by calling virt-install with a nice kickstart.

Lets start with documenting the process ( hint: wiki ) and
then we can 
take it from there, adding and providing the process guides
might also 
come in handy for people.

- KB
-- 
Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ :
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