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Re: Timeline for C5 beta / final?
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2007-02-18 10:06:30
Les Mikesell wrote:
> Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>
>> While still on the same subject of upgrades and
testing etc, if 
>> someone is creating VM's to migrate a real machine
into take a look at 
>> vmware's Converter tool ( url: 
>> http://www.
vmware.com/products/converter/ ). I've not used it
myself, 
>> but heard from people who have that it does what
one would expect from 
>> such a tool, and handles most network issues /
drive and driver issues 
>> fairly cleanly.
> 
> That's for windows. 

humm, I am quite sure that it was a linux machine that I saw
migrated - 
perhaps their free version only does Windows so far, but i
am quite sure 
linux machines are in the pipeline.

> With Linux you can use most of the usual backup/ 
> restore procedures that you would use with physical
machines (tar,cpio, 
> rsync, etc.) and you have to deal with the same
problems of getting a 
> working disk driver in the initrd image and installing
grub that you 
> would have with real machines.  Is there a generic tool
to do those two 
> things easier than booting an install CD in rescue mode
and doing it by 
> hand?
> 

I suppose if you knew what modules you are going to need,
then doing it 
at the same time as the VM is created would be possible. If
not, then 
its a bit of a mismatch. Perhaps something to take on as a
small weekend 
project ?


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Re: Timeline for C5 beta / final?
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2007-02-18 12:49:32
Karanbir Singh wrote:

>> With Linux you can use most of the usual backup/
restore procedures 
>> that you would use with physical machines
(tar,cpio, rsync, etc.) and 
>> you have to deal with the same problems of getting
a working disk 
>> driver in the initrd image and installing grub that
you would have 
>> with real machines.  Is there a generic tool to do
those two things 
>> easier than booting an install CD in rescue mode
and doing it by hand?
>>
> 
> I suppose if you knew what modules you are going to
need, then doing it 
> at the same time as the VM is created would be
possible. If not, then 
> its a bit of a mismatch. Perhaps something to take on
as a small weekend 
> project ?

The ideal thing would be for the installer to have a
re-install mode 
where it just does the the hardware detect, builds the
modprobe.conf 
file and initrd image, and installs grub on the boot drive
assuming that 
you've already copied an otherwise working system into
place. A check 
the the boot partition really has a kernel in the right
place and that 
/etc/fstab lists labels or partition names that really exist
could save 
a few reboot attempts too.  You could run this from the
install disk's 
rescue mode.

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