CentOS 5 build scripts

Karanbir Singh wrote:
> there arently any, its a 2 liner for a 'for f in' loop
to mkisofs, trivial.

I mean scripts from htt
p://mirror.centos.org/centos/4.5/build/distro/
(build.sh) but for
CentOS5.

Or there user can find documentation of full building discs
process (createrepo, pkgorder, buildinstall etc)?

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On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 15:08 +0300, Nikolay Ulyanitsky
wrote:
> Karanbir Singh wrote:
> > there arently any, its a 2 liner for a 'for f in'
loop to mkisofs, trivial.
> 
> I mean scripts from htt
p://mirror.centos.org/centos/4.5/build/distro/
(build.sh) but for
> CentOS5.
> 
> Or there user can find documentation of full building
discs process (createrepo, pkgorder, buildinstall etc)?
> 

We can no longer release the scripts in their entirety as we
have a
build system with logins / keys, etc. that are referenced in
the
scripts.

Before you ask ... the buildsystem is based on mock and
plague,
available via KBS CentOS-Extras.

I can see if I can sanitize parts of the script to make it
work in a
similar way to the c4 one and publish that, but with EL5
(and
fc5/fc6/f7) building in mock and some kind of centralized
buildsystem
(plague / koji) ... reproducing these kind of scripts is
going to get
much harder.

I'll try to do that after the centosplus kernels that I need
to build
for c4 and c5.

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes



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Johnny Hughes wrote:

> We can no longer release the scripts in their entirety
as we have a
> build system with logins / keys, etc. that are
referenced in the
> scripts.
> 
> Before you ask ... the buildsystem is based on mock and
plague,
> available via KBS CentOS-Extras.
> 
> I can see if I can sanitize parts of the script to make
it work in a
> similar way to the c4 one and publish that, but with
EL5 (and
> fc5/fc6/f7) building in mock and some kind of
centralized buildsystem
> (plague / koji) ... reproducing these kind of scripts
is going to get
> much harder.
> 
> I'll try to do that after the centosplus kernels that I
need to build
> for c4 and c5.

Thanks for full answer.

May be a good idea to create howto on CentOS Wiki of
building discs
process to give users possibility of creating CentOS based
distributions
for highly specialized purposes?

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On 5/18/07, Nikolay Ulyanitsky <lystorlystor.org.ua> wrote:

> May be a good idea to create howto on CentOS Wiki of
building discs
> process to give users possibility of creating CentOS
based distributions
> for highly specialized purposes?

While I like the idea of folks using centos for custom
projects and
everything, I'm not sure I'd call this a 'good idea'
following the
oracle fiasco. It's easy enough to create kickstart files
and
otherwise customize installs. I'm not so sure I like the
idea of
centos becoming a meta-distribution to help spawn other
distros. This
dilutes the community and divide the effort and momentum
behind
centos.



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On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:40:13AM -0400, Jim Perrin wrote:
> On 5/18/07, Nikolay Ulyanitsky <lystorlystor.org.ua> wrote:
> 
> >May be a good idea to create howto on CentOS Wiki
of building discs
> >process to give users possibility of creating
CentOS based distributions
> >for highly specialized purposes?
> 
> While I like the idea of folks using centos for custom
projects and
> everything, I'm not sure I'd call this a 'good idea'
following the
> oracle fiasco. It's easy enough to create kickstart
files and
> otherwise customize installs. I'm not so sure I like
the idea of
> centos becoming a meta-distribution to help spawn other
distros. This
> dilutes the community and divide the effort and
momentum behind
> centos.
> 

I dunno that I'd feel too concerned about this.  Anyone with
the
wherewithal to create and sustain development of a distro
will be able
to figure out all these steps on their own no doubt.  After
all, you
guys got CentOS going didn't you? 

The average joe might be able to follow the
instructions/tips and roll
their own CentOS based distro, but I would be surprised to
see it pick
up steam unless they were truly motivated / competent in
which case
they probably wouldn't need the instructions in the first
place...

I think it'd be interesting to have instructions available
for at least
replacing / upgrading the kernel on the installation CD's.
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
> short answer: use pungi ( https
://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/pungi )
> 
> if there is enough interest, I can build and host the
pungi rpms on
> centos.org itself - we can talk to Jesse and see how he
feels about
> that, cant see there being any issue.

No, thanks.
I almost wrote own script to resolve my tasks.

P.S. As I know, impossible to build RHEL5/FC6 distribution
with latest
version of pungi - it's requires latest yum package (and/or
other)
packages from FC7.



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Preface: My opinions here are my own, and may/may not
reflect that of
the distro blah blah.

On 5/18/07, Ray Van Dolson <rvandolsonesri.com> wrote:

>
> I dunno that I'd feel too concerned about this.  Anyone
with the
> wherewithal to create and sustain development of a
distro will be able
> to figure out all these steps on their own no doubt. 
After all, you
> guys got CentOS going didn't you? 

Right, and those folks are just as welcome to rebuild from
upstream as
we do. I don't have any issue with folks doing that at all.
My primary
concern comes from the support/branding side of it. If I
create some
half-baked rebuild of centos and leave the centos naming and
such in
(because I followed a cookie cutter recipe and was lazy
and/or didn't
know how to) anyone who uses that distro will have a bad
experience
with 'centos', which will reflect poorly on us even though
we have no
control over that build.

In a similar vein, I'm quite happy with the Trixbox folks.
They use
centos as a base for their asterisk stuff and I'm very glad
that they
chose us; folks seem very happy with it. At the same time,
when their
users show up here on the list, or on irc saying they're
using centos
and having a problem with php 4.4.x or some other newer
version that
we don't ship, it can become difficult to clue them in on
what's going
on.

> The average joe might be able to follow the
instructions/tips and roll
> their own CentOS based distro, but I would be surprised
to see it pick
> up steam unless they were truly motivated / competent
in which case
> they probably wouldn't need the instructions in the
first place...

And if they release something that fails, how do we migrate
their
users back in after their customizations, or reassure them
that it
wasn't really centos they're unhappy with....

> I think it'd be interesting to have instructions
available for at least
> replacing / upgrading the kernel on the installation
CD's.

I do also, but I'd take a cautious approach and use the
centosplus
kernels or security updated kernels first, not a vanilla
rebuild.

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On Fri, 18 May 2007, Les Mikesell wrote:

> So... Is rpath the way to go for specialized stuff?

Yes. Off you go ... Bye.
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