Re: Re: Using CentOS trademarks/artwork etc.

Hi,

Gerhart, Bjoern wrote:
> I work at Wincor Nixdorf, and we want to provide a
distribution derived
> from CentOS as commercial product. Within the
distribution we provide
> software for installing, configuring and operating our
"Beetle" POS
> systems with regard to our customers' needs. The name
of the
> distribution is "WNLPOS", which means
"Wincor Nixdorf Linux for Point of
> Service".

Sounds good, are you patching the installer or providing
scripts for doing this 
work after the distro is already installed on the machine ?

> The question now is if we may mention CentOS in the
derived distribution
> at all. This concerns for example the name of the grub
menu entries, and
> the splash screens and wallpapers of Gnome and KDE. Are
we allowed to
> write "WNLPOS - based on CentOS"? May we use
the original logos
> (artwork), or is it allowed to modifiy them?

Over the course of the next few days, we will put together a
definite policy on 
such matters and publish them on the wiki.

btw, I hope Wincor Nixdorf is planning a huge donation to
the project!

- KB
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Gerhart, Bjoern wrote:
>> I work at Wincor Nixdorf, and we want to provide a
distribution derived
>> from CentOS as commercial product. Within the
distribution we provide
>> software for installing, configuring and operating
our "Beetle" POS
>> systems with regard to our customers' needs. The
name of the
>> distribution is "WNLPOS", which means
"Wincor Nixdorf Linux for Point of
>> Service".
> 
> Sounds good, are you patching the installer or
providing scripts for
> doing this work after the distro is already installed
on the machine ?

To carry this just a little further ... if the
"Beetle" POS would run on
 CentOS-5 (the installer is much better able to handle
added
repositories), then why build a distro at all.

You could distribute CentOS as is (or a Core version that we
can define
for such things) and you could distribute your application
as an
installable piece (in a separate directory/repository) on
the DVD.

Then, you don't have to deal at all with OS updates and can
make use of
the CentOS public infrastructure for the OS updates.  All
you need to
manage and provide are the specific repositories for the
application.

In this scenario, your users are installing CentOS as the OS
and Beetle
POS as an application.  You can then use the CentOS logos as
is.

If you keep CentOS as the OS, and make the application work
with it as
an added repository it does this for you:

1. Keeps your support and work focused on the application.

2. Allows you to distribute fully functional ISOs for
install if you
want to.

3. Allows your product to also be installable on upstream EL
products
(as a stand alone repository) ... that way you can also have
a repo file
  that can be used to add the product in those instances
too.

> 
>> The question now is if we may mention CentOS in the
derived distribution
>> at all. This concerns for example the name of the
grub menu entries, and
>> the splash screens and wallpapers of Gnome and KDE.
Are we allowed to
>> write "WNLPOS - based on CentOS"? May we
use the original logos
>> (artwork), or is it allowed to modifiy them?
> 

In the scenario that I described above, you are using the
CentOS logos
as it is the OS

> Over the course of the next few days, we will put
together a definite
> policy on such matters and publish them on the wiki.
> 
> btw, I hope Wincor Nixdorf is planning a huge donation
to the project!
> 




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Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Sounds good, are you patching the installer or
providing 
> scripts for doing this 
> work after the distro is already installed on the
machine ?
The concept is, that each customer can easily build his own
installation
or live medium. The medium can be CD/DVD, USB memorystick
or
installation via PXE. The target medium to be installed on
can be either
a hard disk or also a USB memorystick.
After installation (or after booting the live medium), the
customer has
a ready-to-use configured system with the following
benefits:
- his POS middleware is ready-to-use, following the
configuration he has
chosen when building his medium
- the POS hardware and periphery of our Beetle systems is
supported by
our own kernel (modules)
- the system itself is configured (devices like COM ports,
display(s),
touch screens, etc)
- his application is already installed and may be auto
started on system
bootup

> Over the course of the next few days, we will put
together a 
> definite policy on 
> such matters and publish them on the wiki.
That sounds good  

> btw, I hope Wincor Nixdorf is planning a huge donation
to the project!
That's a good idea. When business is running with our
"WNLPOS CentOS", I
will motivate my boss for donating.


Johnny Hughes wrote:
> You could distribute CentOS as is (or a Core version
that we can
define
> for such things) and you could distribute your
application as an
> installable piece (in a separate directory/repository)
on the DVD.
I see your idea, however maybe the requirements we have (see
above) are
too complex for achieving this.
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