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Re: Question about Floodgate
country flaguser name
Portugal
2007-09-04 10:28:25
Hi, 

Did you checked wich interface has QoS at the network
topology ?

Best regards,

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Subject: [FW-1] Question about Floodgate

I have a question for checkpoint flood-gate gurus in the
forum.
   
  I have NG AI R55 with HFA_20 running on SPLAT enforcement
module.  This module is being managed from a Provider-1 NG
AI R55 with HFA_20.  I have single firewall at the moment
but I configure ClusterXL on this firewall because I will
add a second firewall for Active/Active very soon. 
Everything is working so far.
   
  I also have Floodgate on the SPLAT enforcement.  I have
3 floodgate rules (including the default rule):
  1)  Any  Any  ssh   weigh_70  
2)  Any  Any  FTP   weigh_15
3)  Any  Any  any   weigh_10
  I have this setup "per rule" ONLY.
   
  All interfaces on the SPLAT box is Fast-Ethernet
full-duplex.
   
  I open three Secure Copy (SCP) sessions from a host behind
the firewall to three different SSH servers outside the
firewall (I control those ssh servers) and one FTP session
from the same host to an external FTP server (I control this
FTP server as well).
   
  I started downloading via scp from the ssh sessions a
100MB file size.  All three scp sessions, I am getting about
16Mbps download each.  Immediately after starting the secure
copy session, I started the FTP session.  Much to my
amazement, I am getting about 20Mbps download with FTP.  At
the same time, I am seeing my secure copy session going down
from 16mbps to 10mbps on all three of them.  
   
  With Floodgate, I thought my ssh traffics are getting a
much higher priority than FTP traffics.  If that is true,
then how come my FTP traffics throughput is higher than my
ssh traffics,and that when FTP is going on, it takes away
bandwith from my SSH traffics. 
   
  Can some explain this?  Thanks.

       
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Re: Question about Floodgate
user name
2007-09-04 12:24:52
I think part of your results are just due to your test lab
setup.  First I'd say try to force the NIC and switch
settings down to 10Mb full duplex for that small of a
throughput test, so you're total traffic exceeds the
available bandwidth, and see if QOS doesn't do more of what
you expect it to.  You might also try comparing an FTP
transfer to an HTTP transfer, since scp is known to throttle
itself due to it's CPU based encryption, and is more likely
to skew results if either the client or the server has any
CPU change in load during your test.

Just a guess when trying to lab test something on a small
scale like that - you may not be getting the same results
you'd get if it was running a full load in production.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:49
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Subject: Re: [FW-1] Question about Floodgate

Hi,
  Yes, I checeked QoS at the network topology.  I have
everything set to 100Mbps
  because everything is connected to a Cisco 2950 Catalyst
switch.  I have this 
  setup in my lab environment.
   
  I still have issues.  Please help.  Thanks.
  

Pedro Boavida <pboavidaCESCE.PT> wrote:
  Hi, 

Did you checked wich interface has QoS at the network
topology ?

Best regards,

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailing list for discussion of Firewall-1
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On Behalf Of cisco4ng
Sent: terça-feira, 4 de Setembro de 2007 15:59
To: FW-1-MAILINGLISTAMADEUS.US.CHECKPOINT.COM
Subject: [FW-1] Question about Floodgate

I have a question for checkpoint flood-gate gurus in the
forum.

I have NG AI R55 with HFA_20 running on SPLAT enforcement
module. This module is being managed from a Provider-1 NG AI
R55 with HFA_20. I have single firewall at the moment but I
configure ClusterXL on this firewall because I will add a
second firewall for Active/Active very soon. Everything is
working so far.

I also have Floodgate on the SPLAT enforcement. I have
3 floodgate rules (including the default rule):
1) Any Any ssh weigh_70 
2) Any Any FTP weigh_15
3) Any Any any weigh_10
I have this setup "per rule" ONLY.

All interfaces on the SPLAT box is Fast-Ethernet
full-duplex.

I open three Secure Copy (SCP) sessions from a host behind
the firewall to three different SSH servers outside the
firewall (I control those ssh servers) and one FTP session
from the same host to an external FTP server (I control this
FTP server as well).


I started downloading via scp from the ssh sessions a 100MB
file size. All three scp sessions, I am getting about 16Mbps
download each. Immediately after starting the secure copy
session, I started the FTP session. Much to my amazement, I
am getting about 20Mbps download with FTP. At the same time,
I am seeing my secure copy session going down from 16mbps to
10mbps on all three of them. 

With Floodgate, I thought my ssh traffics are getting a much
higher priority than FTP traffics. If that is true, then how
come my FTP traffics throughput is higher than my ssh
traffics,and that when FTP is going on, it takes away
bandwith from my SSH traffics. 

Can some explain this? Thanks.


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