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Re: Mixing SecurePlatforms and ClusterXL
user name
2008-05-16 21:40:41
some older hardware can not work with SPLAT 2.6 kernel.  It
only works
  with 2.4 kernel.  For example, Dell PowerEdge 2450 and
2550 only works
  with SPLAT 2.4 kernel.  It refuses to install splat 2.6
kernel.  
   
  Newer hardware only works with 2.6 kernel.  For example,
Sun X4200-M2 and
  Dell 2950-III only works with SPLAT 2.6 kernel.

Sergio Alvarez <seralvarGMAIL.COM> wrote:
  Check Point has always said having exactly the same
platform on both systems
of a cluster is a MUST, therefore even when I have no
documentation or first
hand experience with something like you are planning, I
wouldn't risk it.

Also is possible that if you ask Check Point support about
this, they will
come up with the requirement mentioned above and will tell
you it is not
officially supported, which is reason enough for me to never
put something
like that in production.

Now, given the fact one of the systems forcibly requires
kernel 2.6, why not
just reinstall the 2.4 machine with 2.6 and that way you
have them both on
the exact same platform and avoid taking risks. I know its
your production
firewall module, but you could replace it with the lab
machine (already with
2.6 kernel) while reinstalling it with SPLAT 2.6 and the
downtime should be
very short.

Again, this is just my personal opinion without having
experience mixing 2.6
and 2.4 kernels on a cluster and thinking on the best way to
avoid issues or
conflicts.

Regards

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Crist Clark 
wrote:

> We are looking at taking an existing single-string
firewall,
> and making it a cluster with ClusterXL. The existing
firewall
> is running good ol' SecurePlatform R65 HFA_02. We have
on hand
> a machine that is currently used in the lab to test
network
> changes before they go operational. However, the test
machine
> is not supported by the old 2.4 kernel SPlat. It's
running
> the "new" 2.6 kernel SPlat.
>
> Now, both machines are the same arch (AMD Opteron CPUs)
and
> are both running R65 HFA_02. I'm about, oh, 90% sure
that
> running them together as a cluster would be OK, but
it'd be
> great if someone could verify that they'd play well
together
> in a cluster, that mixing the 2.4 kernel and 2.6 kernel
SPlats
> in ClusterXL is not a Bad Thing.
>
> A co-worker brought up a really good point too. If the
next HFA
> for the 2.4 kernel comes out a few days before/after
the 2.6
> version does, not a big deal. But are there some other
issues
> with future support that I'm not considering?
>
> For details the 2.4 kernel is a Sun Fire X2200 M2 and
the 2.6
> kernel is a Sun Fire X4100 M2. The sad story is we
originally
> bought the X4100 M2 for the operational firewall only
to learn
> that the X4100, which Sun doesn't sell anymore, is
supported
> by the 2.4 SPlat, but not the X4100 M2. So we got a
X2200 M2.
> But then just weeks after the X2200 M2 went
operational, Check
> Point came out with the 2.6 kernel SPlat that supports
the
> X4100 M2. It'd be nice to use the X4100 M2 system,
which was
> a sweet but $$$ lab machine, for what we originally
purchased
> it for, an operational firewall.
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Re: Mixing SecurePlatforms and ClusterXL
user name
2008-05-16 22:32:44
"some older hardware can not work with SPLAT 2.6
kernel"....

Well, I had not realized that... good point.

Although checking the Hardware Compatibility List, I see the
Sun Fire X2200
M2, which our friend Crist currently has in production
running kernel 2.4,
also supports kernel 2.6, so I guess that means my
suggestions are still
valid. I hope they will be useful as well.

Regards

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, cisco4ng <cisco4ngyahoo.com> wrote:

> some older hardware can not work with SPLAT 2.6 kernel.
 It only works
>  with 2.4 kernel.  For example, Dell PowerEdge 2450 and
2550 only works
>  with SPLAT 2.4 kernel.  It refuses to install splat
2.6 kernel.
>
>  Newer hardware only works with 2.6 kernel.  For
example, Sun X4200-M2 and
>  Dell 2950-III only works with SPLAT 2.6 kernel.
>
> Sergio Alvarez <seralvarGMAIL.COM> wrote:
>  Check Point has always said having exactly the same
platform on both
> systems
> of a cluster is a MUST, therefore even when I have no
documentation or
> first
> hand experience with something like you are planning, I
wouldn't risk it.
>
> Also is possible that if you ask Check Point support
about this, they will
> come up with the requirement mentioned above and will
tell you it is not
> officially supported, which is reason enough for me to
never put something
> like that in production.
>
> Now, given the fact one of the systems forcibly
requires kernel 2.6, why
> not
> just reinstall the 2.4 machine with 2.6 and that way
you have them both on
> the exact same platform and avoid taking risks. I know
its your production
> firewall module, but you could replace it with the lab
machine (already
> with
> 2.6 kernel) while reinstalling it with SPLAT 2.6 and
the downtime should be
> very short.
>
> Again, this is just my personal opinion without having
experience mixing
> 2.6
> and 2.4 kernels on a cluster and thinking on the best
way to avoid issues
> or
> conflicts.
>
> Regards
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Crist Clark
> wrote:
>
> > We are looking at taking an existing single-string
firewall,
> > and making it a cluster with ClusterXL. The
existing firewall
> > is running good ol' SecurePlatform R65 HFA_02. We
have on hand
> > a machine that is currently used in the lab to
test network
> > changes before they go operational. However, the
test machine
> > is not supported by the old 2.4 kernel SPlat. It's
running
> > the "new" 2.6 kernel SPlat.
> >
> > Now, both machines are the same arch (AMD Opteron
CPUs) and
> > are both running R65 HFA_02. I'm about, oh, 90%
sure that
> > running them together as a cluster would be OK,
but it'd be
> > great if someone could verify that they'd play
well together
> > in a cluster, that mixing the 2.4 kernel and 2.6
kernel SPlats
> > in ClusterXL is not a Bad Thing.
> >
> > A co-worker brought up a really good point too. If
the next HFA
> > for the 2.4 kernel comes out a few days
before/after the 2.6
> > version does, not a big deal. But are there some
other issues
> > with future support that I'm not considering?
> >
> > For details the 2.4 kernel is a Sun Fire X2200 M2
and the 2.6
> > kernel is a Sun Fire X4100 M2. The sad story is we
originally
> > bought the X4100 M2 for the operational firewall
only to learn
> > that the X4100, which Sun doesn't sell anymore, is
supported
> > by the 2.4 SPlat, but not the X4100 M2. So we got
a X2200 M2.
> > But then just weeks after the X2200 M2 went
operational, Check
> > Point came out with the 2.6 kernel SPlat that
supports the
> > X4100 M2. It'd be nice to use the X4100 M2 system,
which was
> > a sweet but $$$ lab machine, for what we
originally purchased
> > it for, an operational firewall.
> >
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