Robert Brewer wrote:
> > Rather than being adversarial and trying to fight
> > against this, why not whole-heartedly try it out
> > and see how its changing things? Spend a few hours
> > and make a WSGI-based 'stack' that has the parts
> > of CP you use, see what components are in Paste
> > that make it even easier, look at some middleware
> > that will help out, etc.
>
> I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen. If you
want CherryPy to change more than I've outlined above, you
have the burden of proof in this area. I hardly have enough
time to tell you I don't have that much time. I think
_your_ time would be far better spent building something
better than trying to convince us to do the work for you.
A concrete implementation exists: RhubarbTart (nobody is
trying to get
you to do work we haven't done ourselves). Also, this
document covers
the basics of how RhubarbTart is constructed, without
actually using
Paste in any significant way:
http://pythonpaste.org/do-it-yourself-framework.html
Ben was only suggesting that, as the design for CP3 is
considered, that
people try a little experimentation on their own, try using
WSGI alone
and see how it feels. I also think this is a good
suggestion. Rather
than debating the abstract benefits of different
architectures, it is
much easier to understand the choices that are open to you
by exploring
them -- clearly just talking about them isn't going to
convince anyone
of anything. In the context of starting another major
version in CP3,
trying this experiment does not seem like a lot of work.
Now, you might say, if we're so pleased with ourselves, why
don't we
just use RhubarbTart and keep to ourselves? We'd really
rather web
developers not have to make that choice, and if CP3 used a
lighter more
WSGI-based approach that made RhubarbTart obsolete, that
would be
ideal.
Ian
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