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Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can you t
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2008-03-05 12:08:55
......so that it will go away at a certain time? ; Thanks!
 

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Re: Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can y
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-05 19:34:21
Nope. Broadcast messages can do that because the message is
never 
technically in the user's mailbox, all of the management is
done on the 
Unity side. With a PDL, exchange drops a copy of the message
in each 
user's mailbox and exchange doesn't really have a practical
way to 
expire a message.

There are some tools from Microsoft (exmerge) that can be
used to remove 
a common message from groups of user's mailboxes, but it is
pretty hard 
core and not intended for day to day use.

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From: "Miller, Steve" <MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM>
To: "Cisco VoIPoE List" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You
Send to A 
Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way
that you 
can with a Broadcast Message......
Date: 3/5/2008 1:08 PM

> ......so that it will go away at a certain time? 
Thanks!
>  
> 
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Re: Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can y
country flaguser name
Canada
2008-03-05 21:19:47
I think Exchange uses a 'single instance' messaging which
means a message
sent to a PDL stores a physical copy on each mailstore that
has one or more
recipients in it. So, each user's INBOX will just get a
'pointer' to the
message and not a copy of the message.

Rasim Duric
UoG

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net] On Behalf
Of Pat Hayes
Sent: March-05-08 8:34 PM
To: Miller, Steve
Cc: Cisco VoIPoE List
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That
You Send to A
Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way
that you can
with a Broadcast Message......

Nope. Broadcast messages can do that because the message is
never 
technically in the user's mailbox, all of the management is
done on the 
Unity side. With a PDL, exchange drops a copy of the message
in each 
user's mailbox and exchange doesn't really have a practical
way to 
expire a message.

There are some tools from Microsoft (exmerge) that can be
used to remove 
a common message from groups of user's mailboxes, but it is
pretty hard 
core and not intended for day to day use.

-------- Original Message  --------
From: "Miller, Steve" <MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM>
To: "Cisco VoIPoE List" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You
Send to A 
Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way
that you 
can with a Broadcast Message......
Date: 3/5/2008 1:08 PM

> ......so that it will go away at a certain time? 
Thanks!
>  
> 
> *Steve Miller*
> Telecom Engineer
> Dickstein Shapiro LLP
> 1825 Eye Street NW | Washington, DC 20006
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Re: Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can y
country flaguser name
United States
2008-03-05 21:31:33
Ah, very true, I was oversimplifying. But, as far as I'm
aware, the 
reference has to be removed from each mailbox individually,
there's no 
way to remove them all in one shot.

-------- Original Message  --------
From: "Rasim Duric" <rduricuoguelph.ca>
To: "'Pat Hayes'" <pat-cvwcyv.com>,
"'Miller, Steve'" 
<MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM>
Cc: "'Cisco VoIPoE List'" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
Subject: Re:[cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You
Send to A 
Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way
that you 
can with a Broadcast Message......
Date: 3/5/2008 10:19 PM
> I think Exchange uses a 'single instance' messaging
which means a message
> sent to a PDL stores a physical copy on each mailstore
that has one or more
> recipients in it. So, each user's INBOX will just get a
'pointer' to the
> message and not a copy of the message.
>
> Rasim Duric
> UoG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net] On Behalf
Of Pat Hayes
> Sent: March-05-08 8:34 PM
> To: Miller, Steve
> Cc: Cisco VoIPoE List
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message
That You Send to A
> Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the
same way that you can
> with a Broadcast Message......
>
> Nope. Broadcast messages can do that because the
message is never 
> technically in the user's mailbox, all of the
management is done on the 
> Unity side. With a PDL, exchange drops a copy of the
message in each 
> user's mailbox and exchange doesn't really have a
practical way to 
> expire a message.
>
> There are some tools from Microsoft (exmerge) that can
be used to remove 
> a common message from groups of user's mailboxes, but
it is pretty hard 
> core and not intended for day to day use.
>
> -------- Original Message  --------
> From: "Miller, Steve" <MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM>
> To: "Cisco VoIPoE List" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That
You Send to A 
> Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the
same way that you 
> can with a Broadcast Message......
> Date: 3/5/2008 1:08 PM
>
>   
>> ......so that it will go away at a certain time? 
Thanks!
>>  
>>
>> *Steve Miller*
>> Telecom Engineer
>> Dickstein Shapiro LLP
>> 1825 Eye Street NW | Washington, DC 20006
>> Tel (202) 420-3370| Fax (202) 330-5607
>> MillerSdicksteinshapiro.com
<mailto:MillerSdicksteinshapiro.com>
>>
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>>
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or person 
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Re: Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can y
user name
2008-03-05 21:59:46
As somone mentioned the exmerge tool from Microsoft allows this: http://kbalertz.com/260037/Remove-Message-Exchange-Using-ExMerge-Utility.aspx
However this does not work for exchange 2007 so if you are in a UM environment with that version you are SOL as things currently stand
This process while not exceedingly difficult is manual and would have to be done for each time a message needed to be deleted
HTH
Matthew Loraditch
Helion Automotive Technologies

From: cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net [cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Pat Hayes [pat-cvwcyv.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:31 PM
To: Rasim Duric
Cc: 'Cisco VoIPoE List'; 'Miller, Steve'
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way that you can with a Broadcast Message......

Ah, very true, I was oversimplifying. But, as far as I'm aware, the
reference has to be removed from each mailbox individually, there's no
way to remove them all in one shot.

-------- Original Message&nbsp; --------
From: "Rasim Duric" <rduricuoguelph.ca>
To: "'Pat Hayes'" <pat-cvwcyv.com&gt;, "'Miller, Steve'"
&lt;MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM&gt;
Cc: "'Cisco VoIPoE List'" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
Subject: Re:[cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A
Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way that you
can with a Broadcast Message......
Date: 3/5/2008 10:19 PM
> I think Exchange uses a 'single instance' messaging which means a message
&gt; sent to a PDL stores a physical copy on each mailstore that has one or more
> recipients in it. So, each user's INBOX will just get a 'pointer' to the
> message and not a copy of the message.
&gt;
> Rasim Duric
> UoG
>
&gt; -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net
> [ cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net" target=_blank>mailto:cisco-voip-bouncespuck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> Sent: March-05-08 8:34 PM
> To: Miller, Steve
> Cc: Cisco VoIPoE List
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A
> Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way that you can
> with a Broadcast Message......
>
&gt; Nope. Broadcast messages can do that because the message is never
> technically in the user's mailbox, all of the management is done on the
> Unity side. With a PDL, exchange drops a copy of the message in each
> user's mailbox and exchange doesn't really have a practical way to
> expire a message.
&gt;
> There are some tools from Microsoft (exmerge) that can be used to remove
>; a common message from groups of user's mailboxes, but it is pretty hard
> core and not intended for day to day use.
>
> -------- Original Message&nbsp; --------
&gt; From: "Miller, Steve" <MillerSDicksteinShapiro.COM&gt;
> To: "Cisco VoIPoE List" <cisco-voippuck.nether.net>
&gt; Subject: [cisco-voip] Can You Retrieve A Message That You Send to A
> Public Distribution List?....or can you time it the same way that you
> can with a Broadcast Message......
> Date: 3/5/2008 1:08 PM
>
&gt;
>> ......so that it will go away at a certain time? ; Thanks!
&gt;>
>>
>&gt; *Steve Miller*
&gt;> Telecom Engineer
&gt;> Dickstein Shapiro LLP
>&gt; 1825 Eye Street NW | Washington, DC 20006
>> Tel (202) 420-3370| Fax (202) 330-5607
&gt;> MillerSdicksteinshapiro.com < MillerSdicksteinshapiro.com" target=_blank>mailto:MillerSdicksteinshapiro.com>
>&gt;
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>>; to the intended recipient, you have received this
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