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CUPS / M$
user name
 2008-03-13 15:41:52 

  


  

    
Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are starting to look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I have two main options:  CUPS and M$ Communications server.


 


each will require a new Server (hardware)


 


We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no Licensing cost.


 


from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.


 


What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial tone on the CM side of things?  do you have to have CUPS to integrate or what?


 


Thanks Everyone.


 



Scott


 



  

  
  
   
     
    

  

    Re:  CUPS / M$
  


  

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     2008-03-13 16:53:25
  


  

    

  


  

    

If you haven't already, be sure that your SLA 
covers M$ communications server.......I believe that M$ seperates this out. 
;)


 


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Subject: [cisco-voip] CUPS / M$

  


  
Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are starting to look 
  at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I have two main 
  options:  CUPS and M$ Communications server.

  
 

  
each will require a new Server (hardware)

  
 

  
We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no Licensing 
  cost.

  
 

  
from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.

  
 

  
What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial tone on the 
  CM side of things?  do you have to have CUPS to integrate or what?

  
 

  
Thanks Everyone.

  
 

  
Scott

  
 

  

  


  
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    Re:  CUPS / M$
  


  

     user name

     2008-03-13 17:36:43
  


  

    

  


  

    Scott,

What kind of integration are you looking for?

For straight dial tone on the MOC client you can build a SIP trunk into CM 5 or 6 and it works great.

For click to dial or presence info (MOC to Cisco) you need CUPS


Let me know what you are looking for and I can go into more detail.

Craig

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Voll < svoll.voipgmail.com">svoll.voipgmail.com> wrote:


Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are starting to look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I have two main options:&nbsp; CUPS and M$ Communications server.



 



each will require a new Server (hardware)


 


We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no Licensing cost.


&nbsp;


from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.


 


What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial tone on the CM side of things?&nbsp; do you have to have CUPS to integrate or what?


&nbsp;


Thanks Everyone.


 


Scott



 


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    Re:  CUPS / M$
  


  

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     2008-03-14 15:31:25
  


  

    

  


  

    





You can also use Genesys GETS in place of CUPS. ; 



 



However, you mention one server with OCS, but that is very
uncommon.  A typical installation consists of no less than 3-4 servers, double
that if you need redundancy.



 






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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:37 PM

To: Scott Voll

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUPS / M$






 




Scott,



What kind of integration are you looking for?



For straight dial tone on the MOC client you can build a SIP trunk into CM 5 or
6 and it works great.



For click to dial or presence info (MOC to Cisco) you need CUPS



Let me know what you are looking for and I can go into more detail.



Craig






On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Voll <gmail.com">svoll.voipgmail.com> wrote:







Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are
starting to look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I
have two main options:&nbsp; CUPS and M$ Communications server.










 










each will require a new Server (hardware)










 










We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no
Licensing cost.










 










from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.










 










What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial
tone on the CM side of things?&nbsp; do you have to have CUPS to integrate or
what?









 










Thanks Everyone.









 










Scott










 








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    Re:  CUPS / M$
  


  

     user name

     2008-03-14 15:40:43
  


  

    

  


  

    
I think the question was about using CUPS or OCS to do Chat and presence. Why in the world would you need 3 or 4 servers for this? 


 


I have deployed both CUPS by itself and CUPS with OCS and the OCS client is MUCH better in regards to functionality. You don't have all of the user name and password issues that you are going to have in CUPS because it uses your windows login information. When you click the X in OCS it does not close the program but sends it to the system tray. You also get all of the office integration with OCS. When you get an e-mail from someone you can see in outlook their current presence status and then double click their name in the e-mail and it will call the person without them needing to be a local contact like they do with CUPS.



 


Also the number of servers is kinda a wash. You need to use CUPS either way you go even if you are going to use the OCS client. If you use the CUPS client you must purchase meeting place express if you want desktop sharing and collaboration. If you use the OCS client you and use live meeting in OCS but you have to have another server for OCS.





On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Matt Slaga (US) < Matt.Slagaus.didata.com">Matt.Slagaus.didata.com> wrote:








You can also use Genesys GETS in place of CUPS. ; 


 


However, you mention one server with OCS, but that is very uncommon.&nbsp; A typical installation consists of no less than 3-4 servers, double that if you need redundancy.



 




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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUPS / M$








 


Scott,

What kind of integration are you looking for?

For straight dial tone on the MOC client you can build a SIP trunk into CM 5 or 6 and it works great.

For click to dial or presence info (MOC to Cisco) you need CUPS


Let me know what you are looking for and I can go into more detail.

Craig




On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Voll < svoll.voipgmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voipgmail.com> wrote:




Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are starting to look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I have two main options:&nbsp; CUPS and M$ Communications server.





 




each will require a new Server (hardware)




&nbsp;




We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no Licensing cost.




 




from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.





 




What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial tone on the CM side of things?&nbsp; do you have to have CUPS to integrate or what?




 




Thanks Everyone.




&nbsp;




Scott




 




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    Re:  SCCP Firmware Upgrade Question
  


  

     country flaguser name
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     2008-03-25 08:35:10
  


  

    

  


  

    
should be done on any server that is performing as a TFTP server.&nbsp; this
may be publisher, all servers, or only dedicated TFTP servers.




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STEVEN CASPER wrote:

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 When upgrading firmware on Call Manager 4.1.3 for a SCCP phone
load the install document directs you to download and run the SCCP
.exe&nbsp; file. Is this done on the Publisher only or does it need to be
done on every Call Manager server?&nbsp;

  
 

  
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    Re:  SCCP Firmware Upgrade Question
  


  

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     2008-03-25 09:58:30
  


  

    
Device Packs have to be installed on the publisher, correct.
  I  
haven't read the readme for one in a long time but I would
also  
assume they should be installed on all TFTP servers as well,
just to  
get the files copied.

-Ryan

On Mar 25, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
I believe device packs are handled differently are they not?
They  
update the database with new entries in the pull down menus,
so they  
have to be done on the publisher and then files extracted on
the TFTP  
server.

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> Correct, however since any sub has the potential to be
a TFTP server
> it doesn't hurt to get the files propagated
everywhere.
>
> -Ryan
>
> On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
>
> STEVEN CASPER wrote:
>>  When upgrading firmware on Call Manager 4.1.3 for
a SCCP phone
>> load the
>> install document directs you to download and run
the SCCP .exe
>> file. Is
>> this done on the Publisher only or does it need to
be done on every
>> Call
>> Manager server?
>
> Technically speaking, doesn't it just need to be
installed on the pub
> and on the TFTP server?
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> The install on the pub is done so that the device
defaults page gets
> updated with whatever firmware you're installing.
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     2008-03-25 08:06:52
  


  

    
STEVEN CASPER wrote:
>  When upgrading firmware on Call Manager 4.1.3 for a
SCCP phone load the 
> install document directs you to download and run the
SCCP .exe  file. Is 
> this done on the Publisher only or does it need to be
done on every Call 
> Manager server? 

Technically speaking, doesn't it just need to be installed
on the pub 
and on the TFTP server?

The install on the pub is done so that the device defaults
page gets 
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    Re:  CUPS / M$
  


  

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     2008-03-24 04:28:08
  


  

    

  


  

    

Hi Craig, I'm just have CUPS 6.0 and OCS2007 
configured, so i'm ready to try the integration, but i don't find so much 
documentation on how to do it. Can you help me giving some pointers to make a 
full integration between Microsoft and Cisco?


 


Thank you very much, and have an happy 
easter.


 


Alessandro Bertacco



  
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:36 
  PM

  
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUPS / M$

  

Scott,

What kind of integration are you looking 
  for?

For straight dial tone on the MOC client you can build a SIP trunk 
  into CM 5 or 6 and it works great.

For click to dial or presence info 
  (MOC to Cisco) you need CUPS

Let me know what you are looking for and I 
  can go into more detail.

Craig


  
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Voll <gmail.com">svoll.voipgmail.com> wrote:

  

    
Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are starting to 
    look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I have two 
    main options:&nbsp; CUPS and M$ Communications server.

    
 

    
each will require a new Server (hardware)

    
 

    
We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no Licensing 
    cost.

    
 

    
from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.

    
 

    
What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial tone on 
    the CM side of things?&nbsp; do you have to have CUPS to integrate or 
    what?

    
 

    
Thanks Everyone.

    
 

    
Scott

    
 

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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucme/pbx/interop/notes/617030nt.pdf



 



 



 









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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 5:28 AM

To: Craig Staffin; Scott Voll

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUPS / M$









 







Hi
Craig, I'm just have CUPS 6.0 and OCS2007 configured, so i'm ready to try the
integration, but i don't find so much documentation on how to do it. Can you
help me giving some pointers to make a full integration between Microsoft and
Cisco?










 










Thank
you very much, and have an happy easter.









 










Alessandro
Bertacco













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2008 11:36 PM









Subject: Re: [cisco-voip]
CUPS / M$









 







Scott,



What kind of integration are you looking for?



For straight dial tone on the MOC client you can build a SIP trunk into CM 5 or
6 and it works great.



For click to dial or presence info (MOC to Cisco) you need CUPS



Let me know what you are looking for and I can go into more detail.



Craig






On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Scott Voll <gmail.com">svoll.voipgmail.com> wrote:







Sorry if this is more of an AM / SE question but we are
starting to look at Presense / IM / Etc and I think if I understand correctly I
have two main options:&nbsp; CUPS and M$ Communications server.










 










each will require a new Server (hardware)










 










We are unique in that we have a SLA with M$ so we have no
Licensing cost.










 










from the post I've seen the M$ version is better anyway.










 










What do you have to do two integrate the OC client with dial
tone on the CM side of things?&nbsp; do you have to have CUPS to integrate or
what?









 










Thanks Everyone.









 










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