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Thread: RE: OT - Campus Path Isolation - MPLS, VRF-lite, etc.




RE: OT - Campus Path Isolation - MPLS, VRF-lite, etc.
country flaguser name
United States
2007-05-31 12:49:33
The VRF's will keep the 2 defaults isolated. Use the global
table for your
typical users and the GRE tunnel source/destination. Use a
VRF guest on the
GRE tunnel interface and the guest vlan interface. Now the
guests are stuck
in VRF guest, while your users are in the global table.

David

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobodygroupstudy.com [mailto:nobodygroupstudy.com] On 
> Behalf Of Guyler, Rik
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:35 PM
> To: 'Jian Gu'; Tarun Pahuja
> Cc: Cisco certification; ciscogroupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: OT - Campus Path Isolation - MPLS,
VRF-lite, etc.
> 
> Well, I was considering GRE with VRF-lite to avoid
running 
> PBR.  I like the simplicity of GRE but needed some way
to 
> push down a second default route just for the guest
SSID/VLAN 
> and couldn't think of another way to do that without
using 
> some form of VRF.
>  
> If you say p2mp GRE is an option as well I'll look into
it.  
> But is there some provision to keep our default routes

> isolated from one another?  That was really my big need
for 
> the path isolation requirement.
>  
> Rik
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Jian Gu [mailto:guxiaojiangmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:56 PM
> To: Tarun Pahuja
> Cc: Guyler, Rik; Cisco certification; ciscogroupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT - Campus Path Isolation - MPLS,
VRF-lite, etc.
> 
> 
> SPAN guest vlan across campus is not scalable, against
the general
> core-distribution-access rule, and will be a management

> nightmare. VRF lite
> is not good solution either, because that means you
need to 
> configure VLANs
> on each L3 links. 
> 
> Not sure why you are considering running GRE with VRF
(i.e 
> vrf forwarding
> configured on tunnel interface),  you can configure
p2mp GRE 
> tunnels between
> (L3) distribution switches and internet gateway, and
put guest vlan
> interfaces in the same VRF, no need to configure PBR. 
> 
> 
> On 5/31/07, Tarun Pahuja   >
> wrote: 
> 
> Rik,
>         Any specific reason you do not want to tie
guest-Vlan 
> to guest SSID,
> SPAN that Vlan accross the Campus. Guest-Vlan can be 
> configured to only have
> internet access. Ofcouse, you can go vrf-lite route as
many 
> organizations 
> are doing it these days.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tarun
> 
> 
> On 5/31/07, Guyler, Rik   > wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking into turning on guest wireless access
across 
> our campuses and 
> > looking into the various options for path
isolation.  We 
> have a single
> > entry
> > point to the Internet in our network so some type
of 
> tunneling is what I
> > have in mind but I'm not sure which method is the
way to go. 
> >
> > I've considered plain GRE tunnels (no VRF) but
that would 
> mean turning on
> > PBR, which I really don't want to do.  The
switches 
> performing the PBR are
> > 6500 w/Sup720 so plenty of horsepower but still, I
don't 
> think it's the 
> > way
> > to go.  I've looked into MPLS through the campus
and 
> believe it's a good
> > way
> > to go as is VRF-lite (non-BGP VRF) but I'm not
sure if they 
> fit.  I would
> > only want to enable MPLS/VRF on the endpoints of
the 
> tunnels and not the 
> > devices in between.  I believe this will work but
not sure. 
>  I would also
> > like to hear about any other possible path
isolation options if they
> > exist.
> >
> > I would GREATLY appreciate it if somebody could
enlighten 
> me on this 
> > subject.  Any real-world experiences with campus
guest 
> access to share?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rik
> >
> > 
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