Peter I would only disagree with you about NOT wasting time
with CCNA and
CCNP. I would definitely recommend at least the CCNA as it
is becoming more
intense than it was 7-8 yrs ago. So for him it's a good
starting point.
However, you do make a good point in that many in IT with
several years
experience can't write programs, scripts, nor Unix
experience. That is so
true cause I'm one of those you speak of as well as many
others I've worked
with over the years. Being that automation is becoming much
more prevalent
in IT with scripting, Java, Unix, Linux, etc...it pays to
get that knowledge
in college although you can also get it on your own
depending on how
disciplined you are. I don't presently hold a degree but am
on my way to
obtaining one. I firmly believe that colleges presently
have much better
real world classes such as offering wireless, ethical
hacking, security,
networking including Cisco classes, Unix/Linux, programming,
etc....
If I had to do it over again I would've gone to college a
long time ago.
But I have to add that my 7yrs experience in the US Army
with
telecommunications helped me launch into IT/Networking so I
can't complain.
So as I mentioned I'm going back to college to complete my
degree while
simultaneously recertify and achieve new Certs in Cisco and
others.
IT is a life long challenge and study so if you don't have
what it takes
then you may want to look elsewhere.
On 6/27/07, Jun Kim wrote:
>
> This is probably the most absurd thing that I've ever
heard.
>
> College is not going to teach you CCIE but it will
teach you
> how to prepare for the CCIE. If you have a degree in
> electrical engineering or computer science, you will
have
> no problem getting multiple ccie(s) if you desire to
do so.
>
> I got my first ccie (security) right around the time I
graduated
> from college with an MS degree . I just recently
passed
> the ccie service provider lab. I failed voice lab but
I will
> take it again. I am currently attending University of
Maryland
> MBA program. Even though I have less than two years
on
> job experience, I have other senior engineers come and
ask
> for my advices and opinions when complex issues
regarding
> network architecture or troubleshooting.
>
> If you have what it takes, go to college and get a
degree.
> While you are in college, prepare for the ccie
program.
> You will be suprised how much similarities between how
> to prepare for a course in college and the ccie
program.
> I personally would not want to spend time and resource
> on the ccna/ccnp programs.
>
> I learned a few very important things when I was in
college,
> Unix and programming. I am still very suprised that a
lot
> of networking folks, even with years of experience,
does not
> know how to write even a simple script and that their
Unix
> skill is terrible.
>
> Peter
>
> Paul Parish wrote: I agree with the last guy.
>
> If your goal is CCIE, start learning about networking
now!
> Get your cisco CCNA then go from there.
> Learn about TCP/IP because a good understanding will go
a long way.
>
> If you go to college for Computer Science(which is
probably the best major
> for CCIE, or Information Systems/Technology) you are
still not learning
> about networking technology for the most part(except
maybe one upper
> division class).
>
> If you want to wait 4-5 years to get started in your
career go to college.
>
> If you want to get get started now, start learning
Cisco technologies and
> immerse yourself in the field.
>
> I for one feel I wasted a lot of time at the
university.
> They really don't teach Cisco networking and if you
want to truly be a
> CCIE
> then you need to find out what its all about.
> You don't learn what it is to be a CCIE in college(for
the most part).
>
> 1. Get your CCNA and find some work.
> 2. Get your CCNP(if necessary)and find some work
> 3. Get your CCIE and find some work.
> 4. Get your degree
>
> That is my recommended path for networking
professionals getting started.
>
> Also make sure you understand TCP/IP, DNS, and all the
other popular
> protocols.
> Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an
Edge to see what's
> on,
> when.
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