Re: Networking Career Path

OK since no one else has said it Ill go ahead and say it.

"Computer Science" at most universities doesnt
have anything to do  
with networking AT ALL. Computer science majors learn to
write  
software and programs, they dont know anything about routing
and  
switching.

Why dont they do it the way its done at DeVry? Because
industry  
leading research at Universities is how Universities
solidify their  
reputation. It is how professors get published. Universities
own the  
patents that result from the research, which brings them
money to  
further invest in research. This is how state of the art
research is  
primarily done. Its how ingenuity is perpetualized by
feeding off of  
young minds who follow their dreams within academic pursuits
These  
young minds fabricate their ideas within research that is
performed  
thus earning and substantiating themselves with higher level
degrees  
awarded at the end of their research. The university I
attend has 2  
different majors that distinguish between the aforementioend
subject  
areas. You have computer science, and information science.
The latter  
is for networking and systems, the former is software
development  
etc. The goal of a University is not to be a certification
mill, it  
is to challenge you to learn how to think, to educate you.
It is not  
to make you regurgitate commands of an IOS.


On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:03 PM, Kenneth M. Chipps PhD wrote:

> The list of courses for the University of Alberta that
Priscilla  
> discusses
> below is what I find interesting about the CS programs
of traditional
> schools. As the list shows they cover everything except
the practical
> aspects of designing, managing, and troubleshooting a
real network.  
> As she
> also points out many of these types of departments do
not have any  
> faculty
> members who have ever seen a real network, as their
focus is  
> research not
> teaching. This other approach is exactly what we do by
leaving out
> programming - except for scripting - algorithms, data
structures, and
> databases. Instead we offer server OS courses, Cisco
Academy type  
> courses,
> network design, network management, security, and so
on. Leaving aside
> questions such as the types of students or the academic
background  
> of the
> faculty, I wonder which is the better approach? I know
why we do  
> what we do.
> I wonder why none of the traditional schools do things
our way? I  
> assume it
> is the research focus of the faculty. Any opinions?
>
> Ken Chipps
> DeVry University - Dallas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobodygroupstudy.com [mailto:nobodygroupstudy.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:01 PM
> To: ciscogroupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Networking Career Path [7:122835]
>
> alphadrakegmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Side note: I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. And
the
>> University of Alberta, Grant MacEwan, and NAIT
(links attached
>> below) are pretty much my only choices in post
secondary
>> education.
>>
>> http://www.ualberta.ca/
>
> The University of Alberta computer science program
sounds good,  
> even though
> a bit weak in the networking realm. You will learn
fundamental  
> computer
> science (programming, algorithms, data structures,
operating systems,
> databases, etc). You will learn critical thinking,
systems  
> analysis, design
> principles, oral and written communication skills, and
how to get  
> along with
> other nerds (your classmates). All these things will
help you form a
> long-lasting career. You should strive to get training
that will  
> last you a
> life time, not just training for your first couple
jobs.
>
> While getting your degree, try to volunteer (or get
internships)  
> that will
> let you do networking. Keep studying it on your own. Go
for your  
> CCNA first.
> Once you graduate, then go for CCIE.
>
> That would be my advice. Take it with a grain of salt,
though,  
> since I don't
> know you! 
>
> The other programs (listed below) don't sound nearly as
good. I  
> would be
> wary of 2nd rate colleges. Their CS departments can be
pretty bad  
> with a
> bunch of old farts that haven't done anything creative
since the COBOL
> program they wrote in 1970 that emulated PacMan. 
>
> Good luck, Adam. It's very cool to hear from a high
school student.
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>> http://www.m
acewan.ca/web/home/index.cfm
>> http://www.nait.ca/
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