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rogues galleries
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2006-11-27 23:51:50
--- Adrian Graham <witchybinarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:

> Of course, the drives were only sold in france so
> they still fetch a premium
> over there. It's still possible to get Stratos
> machines but only if you've
> got deep pockets.

 So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
European machines go for? Heck which are they? All I
want is a little ol' Nimbus :(. Oh and an Atari PC2.
And and...


 
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rogues galleries
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2006-11-28 00:25:15
>n 27/11/06 23:51, "Chris M" <chrism3667yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
>  So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
> European machines go for? Heck which are they? All I
> want is a little ol' Nimbus :(. Oh and an Atari PC2.
> And and...

I'm sure you can fill in the etchings of the nimbus I've got
with your name
on! Atari PC2 type stuff is a bit more unobtanium as far as
I can see on
this side of the pond - I've only ever seen one and it's the
machine I've
got, ditto PC1 and PC3.........

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rogues / Rare european machines
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2006-11-28 06:03:41
Chris M wrote:

>  So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
> European machines go for? Heck which are they? 


ETH Lilith's : 2901 based machine with Modula-2 M-code as
machine 
language. Developed and deployed at the ETH in Switzerland,
build in Utah !

ETH Ceres : 32000-based machine for Oberon development

I have yet to see one on any auction site.

Also Philips minis are rare indeed.

And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high 
resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used an
actual C64 
motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)

However somehow the rarer European machines do not seem to
command a 
premium when they sell. The clipper goes for less than  a
SX64





					Jos Dreesen

PDC Clipper vs SX-64 (was Re: rogues / Rare european machines)
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2006-11-28 06:13:16
> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high 
> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used
an actual C64 
> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)

I have never heard of this. Who made it?

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rogues / Rare european machines
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2006-11-28 06:20:57
In article <456BD13D.7090802bluewin.ch>,
    Jos Dreesen / Marian Capel <jos.marbluewin.ch>  writes:

> ETH Lilith's : 2901 based machine with Modula-2 M-code
as machine 
> language. Developed and deployed at the ETH in
Switzerland, build in Utah !

Got 3 of 'em with a bunch of spare boards in a 4th... I
wouldn't mind
having more information on them, I don't have the right
monitor and
keyboard for it.
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PDC Clipper vs SX-64 (was Re: rogues / Rare european machines)
user name
2006-11-28 21:01:00
> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high
> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used
an actual C64
> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)

3"?
or 3.5"?
a european machine could be either.


Along similar lines, back in the USA, Elcompco built TRS80s,
then IBM
5150s, into Halliburton attache cases, along with
5"-8" monitors, drives,
etc.
Adam Osborn drank a glass of our champagne at our Computer
Faire booth
and admired the machine, a few hours before announcing that
his machine
was the first ever portable microcomputer.  (Even if he
didn't take the
Elcompco machine seriously, what about the IBM 5100?)
rogues / Rare european machines
user name
2006-11-28 18:40:33
Hi,

Jos Dreesen said:
> 
> ETH Ceres : 32000-based machine for Oberon development
> 
> I have yet to see one on any auction site.
> 

If one of those turns up, you'll have to fight me for it


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PDC Clipper vs SX-64 (was Re: rogues / Rare european machines)
user name
2006-11-28 19:11:44
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a
3" floppy and a EL high 
>> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It
used an actual C64 
>> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
> 
> I have never heard of this. Who made it?
> 
PDC, a Hamburg based startup ca. 1984
They went bust as soon as the first machines hit the market.
The machines were made by a Siemens branch in Belgium, which
was 
desparate for work.
The machine was in no way ready for production. Imagine a
suitcase with 
a C64 motherboard and around 60 wires soldered to it....

					Jos Dreesen



PDC Clipper vs SX-64 (was Re: rogues / Rare european machines)
user name
2006-11-28 21:31:59
On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:01, Fred Cisin wrote:

> Adam Osborn drank a glass of our champagne at our
Computer Faire booth
> and admired the machine, a few hours before announcing
that his machine
> was the first ever portable microcomputer.  (Even if he
didn't take the
> Elcompco machine seriously, what about the IBM 5100?)

The first time I saw an Osborne I was as a bunch of parts
scattered 
across a tabletop at Sorcim.  I had no idea of what they
were going 
to put the electronics in, though I complained immediately
about the 
small CRT.

Cheers,
Chuck



PDC Clipper vs SX-64 (was Re: rogues / Rare european machines)
user name
2006-11-28 21:44:37
> >> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a
3" floppy and a EL high 
> >> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase.
It used an actual C64 
> >> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
> > 
> > I have never heard of this. Who made it?
> > 
> PDC, a Hamburg based startup ca. 1984
> They went bust as soon as the first machines hit the
market.
> The machines were made by a Siemens branch in Belgium,
which was 
> desparate for work.
> The machine was in no way ready for production. Imagine
a suitcase with 
> a C64 motherboard and around 60 wires soldered to
it....

How many of these were made? Do you have a picture?

Compared to the hernia inducing SX-64 it sounds nicer,
though. Was it
in colour?

Despite this, I love SX-64s and have four of them. They make
the rounds
at shows since it's easier to carry than a computer,
monitor, disk drive
and power supply.

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