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2006-11-27 23:51:50 |
--- Adrian Graham <witchy binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
wrote:
> Of course, the drives were only sold in france so
> they still fetch a premium
> over there. It's still possible to get Stratos
> machines but only if you've
> got deep pockets.
So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
European machines go for? Heck which are they? All I
want is a little ol' Nimbus :(. Oh and an Atari PC2.
And and...
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2006-11-28 00:25:15 |
>n 27/11/06 23:51, "Chris M" <chrism3667 yahoo.com> wrote:
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> So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
> European machines go for? Heck which are they? All I
> want is a little ol' Nimbus :(. Oh and an Atari PC2.
> And and...
I'm sure you can fill in the etchings of the nimbus I've got
with your name
on! Atari PC2 type stuff is a bit more unobtanium as far as
I can see on
this side of the pond - I've only ever seen one and it's the
machine I've
got, ditto PC1 and PC3.........
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2006-11-28 06:03:41 |
Chris M wrote:
> So what do some of the starrier UK and mainland
> European machines go for? Heck which are they?
ETH Lilith's : 2901 based machine with Modula-2 M-code as
machine
language. Developed and deployed at the ETH in Switzerland,
build in Utah !
ETH Ceres : 32000-based machine for Oberon development
I have yet to see one on any auction site.
Also Philips minis are rare indeed.
And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high
resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used an
actual C64
motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
However somehow the rarer European machines do not seem to
command a
premium when they sell. The clipper goes for less than a
SX64
Jos Dreesen
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2006-11-28 06:13:16 |
> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high
> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used
an actual C64
> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
I have never heard of this. Who made it?
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2006-11-28 06:20:57 |
In article <456BD13D.7090802 bluewin.ch>,
Jos Dreesen / Marian Capel <jos.mar bluewin.ch> writes:
> ETH Lilith's : 2901 based machine with Modula-2 M-code
as machine
> language. Developed and deployed at the ETH in
Switzerland, build in Utah !
Got 3 of 'em with a bunch of spare boards in a 4th... I
wouldn't mind
having more information on them, I don't have the right
monitor and
keyboard for it.
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2006-11-28 21:01:00 |
> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a 3"
floppy and a EL high
> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It used
an actual C64
> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
3"?
or 3.5"?
a european machine could be either.
Along similar lines, back in the USA, Elcompco built TRS80s,
then IBM
5150s, into Halliburton attache cases, along with
5"-8" monitors, drives,
etc.
Adam Osborn drank a glass of our champagne at our Computer
Faire booth
and admired the machine, a few hours before announcing that
his machine
was the first ever portable microcomputer. (Even if he
didn't take the
Elcompco machine seriously, what about the IBM 5100?)
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2006-11-28 18:40:33 |
Hi,
Jos Dreesen said:
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> ETH Ceres : 32000-based machine for Oberon development
>
> I have yet to see one on any auction site.
>
If one of those turns up, you'll have to fight me for it
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2006-11-28 19:11:44 |
Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a
3" floppy and a EL high
>> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase. It
used an actual C64
>> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
>
> I have never heard of this. Who made it?
>
PDC, a Hamburg based startup ca. 1984
They went bust as soon as the first machines hit the market.
The machines were made by a Siemens branch in Belgium, which
was
desparate for work.
The machine was in no way ready for production. Imagine a
suitcase with
a C64 motherboard and around 60 wires soldered to it....
Jos Dreesen
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2006-11-28 21:31:59 |
On 28 Nov 2006 at 13:01, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Adam Osborn drank a glass of our champagne at our
Computer Faire booth
> and admired the machine, a few hours before announcing
that his machine
> was the first ever portable microcomputer. (Even if he
didn't take the
> Elcompco machine seriously, what about the IBM 5100?)
The first time I saw an Osborne I was as a bunch of parts
scattered
across a tabletop at Sorcim. I had no idea of what they
were going
to put the electronics in, though I complained immediately
about the
small CRT.
Cheers,
Chuck
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2006-11-28 21:44:37 |
> >> And then there is this C64 based laptop with a
3" floppy and a EL high
> >> resolution flatscreen, build into a suitcase.
It used an actual C64
> >> motherboard..... ( PDC Clipper)
> >
> > I have never heard of this. Who made it?
> >
> PDC, a Hamburg based startup ca. 1984
> They went bust as soon as the first machines hit the
market.
> The machines were made by a Siemens branch in Belgium,
which was
> desparate for work.
> The machine was in no way ready for production. Imagine
a suitcase with
> a C64 motherboard and around 60 wires soldered to
it....
How many of these were made? Do you have a picture?
Compared to the hernia inducing SX-64 it sounds nicer,
though. Was it
in colour?
Despite this, I love SX-64s and have four of them. They make
the rounds
at shows since it's easier to carry than a computer,
monitor, disk drive
and power supply.
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