Re: bar-bof on saml & kerberos intersections (skint?)

Tim,

Tim Alsop wrote:
> 
> I am very interested in this, but I am not attending
IETF meeting this
> time. So, can I ask if a summary of discussions is
going to be published
> for us to read and comment on ? I worked with bob on
Oasis WG for SAML
> 2.0 and tried to introduce Kerberos, but was only
partially successful,
> so I am keen to contribute in some way as it seems
there are now more
> people interested.

It is possible to participate IETF meetings virtually over
the internet.
I've been doing for the last couple of meetings, and it
works
remarkably well (except for the time offset between me in
old Europe
and the majority of meetings in the US).

The audiocast is usually very good, most of the
presentations
become available online from the IETF website short before
or
during the meeting, so you can watch the slides as well.

And for meetings of the security area, there is a
significant amount of
talk in the jabber rooms (plus some amount of jabber
scribing) and
comments from remote participants into jabber are usually
fed back
into the meeting.


-Martin


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Martin,

Thankyou. I wasn't sure about this meeting because it
sounded like it
might be a less formal meeting (e.g. chat around coffee
table) instead
of a formal scheduled meeting. So, if the meeting will be
online then I
look forward to joining in.

Take care,
Tim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Rex [mailto:Martin.Rexsap.com] 
Sent: 19 July 2007 23:58
To: Tim Alsop
Cc: leifjit.su.se; ietf-krb-wganl.gov; kittenlists.ietf.org
Subject: Re: bar-bof on saml & kerberos intersections
(skint?)

Tim,

Tim Alsop wrote:
> 
> I am very interested in this, but I am not attending
IETF meeting this
> time. So, can I ask if a summary of discussions is
going to be
published
> for us to read and comment on ? I worked with bob on
Oasis WG for SAML
> 2.0 and tried to introduce Kerberos, but was only
partially
successful,
> so I am keen to contribute in some way as it seems
there are now more
> people interested.

It is possible to participate IETF meetings virtually over
the internet.
I've been doing for the last couple of meetings, and it
works
remarkably well (except for the time offset between me in
old Europe
and the majority of meetings in the US).

The audiocast is usually very good, most of the
presentations
become available online from the IETF website short before
or
during the meeting, so you can watch the slides as well.

And for meetings of the security area, there is a
significant amount of
talk in the jabber rooms (plus some amount of jabber
scribing) and
comments from remote participants into jabber are usually
fed back
into the meeting.


-Martin


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On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:57:43AM +0200, Martin Rex wrote:
> Tim,
> 
> Tim Alsop wrote:
> > 
> > I am very interested in this, but I am not
attending IETF meeting this
> > time. So, can I ask if a summary of discussions is
going to be published
> > for us to read and comment on ? I worked with bob
on Oasis WG for SAML
> > 2.0 and tried to introduce Kerberos, but was only
partially successful,
> > so I am keen to contribute in some way as it seems
there are now more
> > people interested.
> 
> It is possible to participate IETF meetings virtually
over the internet.

Indeed, and one can even present remotely (but I wouldn't
recommend it:
a) it doesn't work very well, b) even if it did you miss
important
communication opportunities, c) it deprives the IETF/ISOC of
funds).

But bar BoFs are another story.

Bar BoFs typically happen at a bar or at a restaurant,
typically a noisy
one, though preferably not so noisy, and typically too far
from IETF
tele-conferencing infrastructure.  It has to be this way
because they
are not formally scheduled BoFs, therefore there's no
reserved room or
tele-conferencing facilities, and, since they are not
formally scheduled
and participants want to attend other formally scheduled
meetings, bar
BoFs have to happen before/after the IETF day begins/ends or
during
lunch, which means during breakfast, lunch or dinner, which
means "where
there is food."

Nico
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