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1a. Re: no web page
Posted by: "Dragonfly" dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net flyofdragon2002
Date: Mon Sep 3, 2007 12:51 am ((PDT))

Hello Howard,

the link below has pretty complete instructions for setting up a PPPoE
connection:
http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConnectionOnWindowsXP.php

The instructions were written for the ISP iserv. Where you see iserv,
put At&t. You have to be on Win 2000 or above. If you are on Win 98, you
need a PPPoE client.

Dragonfly

Howard wrote:
>
> How do I connect without the software.
>
> I never could get it to work without it.
>
> I too have AT&T DSL.
>; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: "Dragonfly" < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>;
> To: < Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAD] Re: no web page
>;
> > Ken,
>; >
>; > I have AT&T DSL and and don't use the software. You are not required to
> > have the software to connect. You only have to know how establish a
> > connection without it.
> >
>; > Since he has answered twice without providing information about logging
> > on, I suspect that he is not actually doing so. Without a router, the
> > computer would need a network connection to store the PPPoE logon
&gt; > information. He could look at the properties of his existing connections
> > or use the link I sent him to create a new one.
>; >
>; > He does not need a router just to log in and provide a firewall. He only
>; > needs a good software firewall and a network connection since only one
> > computer is using the DSL connection. One thing a router would do is
> > make internet connections invisible. His computer would see it as a LAN
> > that provides an internet connection.
> >
>; > Dragonfly
> >
>; > Ken (desco) Ramsey wrote:
&gt; > >
>; > > He deleted the AT&T software as I recall that just may have been
>; > > taking care
>; > > of the login script.
> > > Sitting behind only a modem sans router is often an invitation to the
> > > hackers.
> > > If a router is installed, the router will take care of the login after
&gt; > > proper setup.
&gt; > > Your ISP will be your best source of information on restoring a login.
&gt; > >
>; > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of
> > > Dragonfly
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 4:32 PM
> > > To: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAD] Re: no web page
>; > >
>; > > I have a Speed Stream modem. If it is not a continuous blink,
> something
> > > is wrong. How is the process of logging on taken care of? This is
> > > important because if the modem is sending out a connection request, it
> > > would be ignored if you have not logged on. AT&T would send back an
> > > account and password request. If it is not resolved, there will be no
> > > traffic.
> > >
>; > > Do you have a network connection that is set up just for the DSL
> > > connection? If not, you need one. You should look at the link below.
&gt; > >
>; > >
>; http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne>
> > >
>; <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn>
> e>
&gt; > > ctionOnWindowsXP.php
> > >
>; > > Dragonfly
> > >
>; > > Raymond Flores wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > it is a speed stream modem. I had removed the at&t software so I
> could
&gt; > > > work on the browser. Yes the computer is the only one on the modem.
&gt; > > > All the lights are on and the activity light blinks, not fast,
> but it
> > > > does blink. What should the IP address be, since it is a dhcp
> address
> > > > from at&t.
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > > > Ray
> > > >
>; > > > Dragonfly < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net
> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>; wrote:
&gt; > > > Is it a DSL modem and not a router? Are you using PPoE? How is the
> > > > process of logging to the DSL account on taken care of?
> > > >
>; > > > Are you sending email through the DSL modem? Is your computer
> the only
>; > > > one connected to the modem (Is there any traffic through the modem)?
> Are
> > > > the lights on the modem blinking?
> > > >
>; > > > Dragonfly
> > > >
>; > > > Raymond Flores wrote:
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > it is going straight to a dsl modem not a server
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > Dragonfly < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net
> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>;
> > > > > wrote: Raymond,
> > >
>; > >
>; >
>; >
>; > > Remove the anti-virus footer, ads, Yahoo footers, and this line and
> everything below when replying; see our other list
>; > http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree
> <http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree>
> >
>; > For a "How to Trim" see:
>; > http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm
> <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm>
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
&gt; >
>; >
>; >
>;
>

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.

OOPS!

Mike the mod wrote:
&gt;
> Hi folks,
&gt; this is a message from the DIGEST
&gt; notice anything odd?
>;
> 5 sets of carats
&gt; Please read Martha's how to trim:
&gt;
> http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm
> <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm>
>
>; 1a. Re: no web page
>; Posted by: "Dragonfly" dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net
> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> flyofdragon2002
>; Date: Mon Sep 3, 2007 12:51 am ((PDT))
>
> Hello Howard,
>
> the link below has pretty complete instructions for setting up a PPPoE
&gt; connection:
> http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConnectionOnWindowsXP.php
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConnectionOnWindowsXP.php>
>
>; The instructions were written for the ISP iserv. Where you see iserv,
&gt; put At&t. You have to be on Win 2000 or above. If you are on Win 98, you
> need a PPPoE client.
>
> Dragonfly
>
&gt; Howard wrote:
&gt; >
>; > How do I connect without the software.
> >
>; > I never could get it to work without it.
> >
>; > I too have AT&T DSL.
>; > ----- Original Message -----
&gt; > From: "Dragonfly" < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net
> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>;
> > To: < Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAD] Re: no web page
>; >
>; > > Ken,
>; > >
>; > > I have AT&T DSL and and don't use the software. You are not
> required to
> > > have the software to connect. You only have to know how establish a
> > > connection without it.
> > >
>; > > Since he has answered twice without providing information about
> logging
> > > on, I suspect that he is not actually doing so. Without a router, the
> > > computer would need a network connection to store the PPPoE logon
&gt; > > information. He could look at the properties of his existing
> connections
> > > or use the link I sent him to create a new one.
>; > >
>; > > He does not need a router just to log in and provide a firewall.
> He only
>; > > needs a good software firewall and a network connection since only one
> > > computer is using the DSL connection. One thing a router would do is
> > > make internet connections invisible. His computer would see it as
> a LAN
> > > that provides an internet connection.
> > >
>; > > Dragonfly
> > >
>; > > Ken (desco) Ramsey wrote:
&gt; > > >
>; > > > He deleted the AT&T software as I recall that just may have been
>; > > > taking care
>; > > > of the login script.
> > > > Sitting behind only a modem sans router is often an invitation
> to the
> > > > hackers.
> > > > If a router is installed, the router will take care of the login
> after
&gt; > > > proper setup.
&gt; > > > Your ISP will be your best source of information on restoring a
> login.
&gt; > > >
>; > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of
> > > > Dragonfly
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 4:32 PM
> > > > To: Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com">Computer_Help_and_Discussionyahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Computer_Help_and_Discussion%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [CHAD] Re: no web page
>; > > >
>; > > > I have a Speed Stream modem. If it is not a continuous blink,
&gt; > something
> > > > is wrong. How is the process of logging on taken care of? This is
> > > > important because if the modem is sending out a connection
> request, it
> > > > would be ignored if you have not logged on. AT&T would send back an
> > > > account and password request. If it is not resolved, there will
> be no
> > > > traffic.
> > > >
>; > > > Do you have a network connection that is set up just for the DSL
> > > > connection? If not, you need one. You should look at the link below.
&gt; > > >
>; > > >
>; >
> http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne>
>
> >
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConne>&gt;
> > > >
>; >
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn>
>
> >
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn
> <http://www.iserv.net/ConfiguringABroadbandConnection/SettingUpAPPPOEDSLConn>>;
> > e>
&gt; > > > ctionOnWindowsXP.php
> > > >
>; > > > Dragonfly
> > > >
>; > > > Raymond Flores wrote:
&gt; > > > >
>; > > > > it is a speed stream modem. I had removed the at&t software so I
> > could
&gt; > > > > work on the browser. Yes the computer is the only one on the
> modem.
&gt; > > > > All the lights are on and the activity light blinks, not fast,
&gt; > but it
> > > > > does blink. What should the IP address be, since it is a dhcp
>; > address
> > > > > from at&t.
> > > > >
>; > > > >
>; > > > > Ray
> > > > >
>; > > > > Dragonfly < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>; wrote:
&gt; > > > > Is it a DSL modem and not a router? Are you using PPoE? How is the
> > > > > process of logging to the DSL account on taken care of?
> > > > >
>; > > > > Are you sending email through the DSL modem? Is your computer
> > the only
>; > > > > one connected to the modem (Is there any traffic through the
> modem)?
> > Are
> > > > > the lights on the modem blinking?
> > > > >
>; > > > > Dragonfly
> > > > >
>; > > > > Raymond Flores wrote:
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > it is going straight to a dsl modem not a server
&gt; > > > > >
>; > > > > > Dragonfly < dragonfly%40pacbell.net">dragonflypacbell.net
> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net> <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>
> > > > > <mailto:dragonfly%40pacbell.net>>;
> > > > > > wrote: Raymond,
> > > >
>; > > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; > > > Remove the anti-virus footer, ads, Yahoo footers, and this line and
> > everything below when replying; see our other list
>; > > http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree
> <http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree>
> > <http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree
> <http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=chadfree>>;
> > >
>; > > For a "How to Trim" see:
>; > > http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm
> <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm>
> > <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm
> <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm>&gt;
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
&gt; > >
>; > >
>; > >
>; >
>; >
>;
>

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And still you don't trim<G&gt;

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On 9/4/2007 at 3:01 AM Dragonfly wrote:

OOPS!

Mike the mod wrote:
&gt;
> Hi folks,
&gt; this is a message from the DIGEST
&gt; notice anything odd?
>;
> 5 sets of carats
&gt; Please read Martha's how to trim:
&gt;
> http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm
> <http://www.marthas-web.com/trimming-posts.htm>
S N I P

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I saw my response to your email and I was shocked! How is this one?

Dragonfly

Mike the mod wrote:
&gt;
> And still you don't trim<G&gt;
>
> ******* REPLY SEPARATOR *********
>
&gt; On 9/4/2007 at 3:01 AM Dragonfly wrote:
&gt;
> OOPS!
&gt;
>

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That did bring a small smile to my face.
Richard

Mike the mod wrote:
&gt; And still you don't trim<G&gt;

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Hi Dragonfly,
this one is great
Thanks for helping set a good example.

Mike the mod

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On 9/4/2007 at 11:22 AM Dragonfly wrote:

I saw my response to your email and I was shocked! How is this one?

Dragonfly

Mike the mod wrote:
&gt;
> And still you don't trim<G&gt;
>
> ******* REPLY SEPARATOR *********
>
&gt; On 9/4/2007 at 3:01 AM Dragonfly wrote:
&gt;
> OOPS!
S N I P

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