Cosmo release plans this month and Snarf home

On 2/6/06, Lisa Dusseault <lisaosafoundation.org>
wrote:

> 1.  What is Snarf's home?  I propose that we make it
part of Scooby.
> We could keep the name or call it something more like
"scooby-oob"
> depending on what the purpose of the download is.  
Let's discuss here.

why part of scooby? people who use cosmo only (and those who
develop
cosmo only) will use it too.

> 2. Are we going to change the Cosmo 0.3 plan to release
a version of
> Cosmo *this month* to align with Scooby 0.1?
>   - We are gathering info on the QA impact
>   - We are triaging bugs and estimating remaining
development work
>   --> thus we're working on this and will provide
updates to this
> list later

the post-triage 0.3 bug list is here:

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On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Brian Moseley wrote:

> On 2/6/06, Lisa Dusseault <lisaosafoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> 1.  What is Snarf's home?  I propose that we make
it part of Scooby.
>> We could keep the name or call it something more
like "scooby-oob"
>> depending on what the purpose of the download is.  
Let's discuss  
>> here.
>
> why part of scooby? people who use cosmo only (and
those who develop
> cosmo only) will use it too.

There can be a pointer from Cosmo too.  Realistically people
who go  
to a download page will see alternative downloads as equally
"part  
of" the project. So if somebody goes to Cosmo download
page and sees  
a version of "full install", they'll think of it
as part of or a  
superset of cosmo.  Another person might start at Scooby and
see the  
same pointer to "full install"

Separately from that argument, however, I don't quite see
how cosmo- 
only users will be frequently attracted to a full-install
including  
scooby.  What am I missing?  If it's because that's the only
way to  
truly easily install cosmo, we could have yet another
download  
option, for "easy-install cosmo" that didn't
include Scooby.

Lisa
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On 2/7/06, Lisa Dusseault <lisaosafoundation.org>
wrote:

> There can be a pointer from Cosmo too.  Realistically
people who go
> to a download page will see alternative downloads as
equally "part
> of" the project. So if somebody goes to Cosmo
download page and sees
> a version of "full install", they'll think of
it as part of or a
> superset of cosmo.  Another person might start at
Scooby and see the
> same pointer to "full install"

that's fine for download links. there will still need to be
a place
for installation and configuration instructions and FAQs for
the
integrated bundle. these docs will not be specific to either
cosmo or
scooby.

> Separately from that argument, however, I don't quite
see how cosmo-
> only users will be frequently attracted to a
full-install including
> scooby.  What am I missing?  If it's because that's the
only way to
> truly easily install cosmo, we could have yet another
download
> option, for "easy-install cosmo" that didn't
include Scooby.

they will be attracted to an integrated bundle of tomcat,
jackrabbit,
derby, and cosmo, which incidentally also includes scooby.

sure, we could do cosmo-only and scooby-only versions of the
integrated bundle, but why? there's no cost associated with
providing
both, and it's trivial for an admin to remove one if he
really doesn't
want it.

i think you are overcomplicating things in attempt to avoid
the
perception of "another project".
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