Help - Guidance on how to apply CC...

We are working over our web site which contains a large
number of  
downloadable documents - things like case studies, white
papers,  
presentations etc.  We are updating much of this material
(Our  
documents are issued in pdf format) and would like it to be
issued  
under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs
2.0  
England & Wales Licence.

So far so good... but now the questions begin.

First, presumably we have to mark our documents with the cc
details -  
but we have been unable to find on the cc web site any
guidance about  
what information you put on the text document itself to
indicate the  
license terms.  We know from talking to those who use our
materials  
that they are regularly printed out and then passed on as
printed  
documents - so this tagging is important.  What is the
'correct' (or  
commonly used) form for marking a document?  How do we get
around the  
lack of links back to the underlying cc license - is it OK
to put in  
a URL, or do we have to somehow paste the whole text into
the document?

Second, I think I have worked out how to add meta data to
the pdf to  
indicate the copyright status (looks like we have to do this
manually  
as the XMP template is not functional in Adobe CS2 or
Acrobat Pro  
7).  But not sure if this is all we need to do - do we have
to add cc  
license data to the web pages that hold these documents?  If
so, do  
we do it for the site, the page, or the document?  If for
site or  
page, where do we find out what we are supposed to put?

Third, we are hoping to use the Joomla CMS system to support
our web  
site - does anyone know if Joomla plays nicely with CC?

Thanks in advance for your help

Best regards

Gavin Lawrie
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> We are working over our web site which contains a large
number of
> downloadable documents - things like case studies,
white papers,
> presentations etc.  We are updating much of this
material (Our
> documents are issued in pdf format) and would like it
to be issued
> under a Creative Commons
Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0
> England & Wales Licence.
>
> So far so good... but now the questions begin.
>
> First, presumably we have to mark our documents with
the cc details -
> but we have been unable to find on the cc web site any
guidance about
> what information you put on the text document itself to
indicate the
> license terms.  We know from talking to those who use
our materials

You can indicate the license where you indicate the
copyright notice.

Copyright 2006 John Smith

This work is licensed under
CreativeCommons-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives.

you might also want to include the CC thumbnail icon, such
as this:
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.p
ng

and perhaps a plaintext URL to the license itself

either the "human readable" version
htt
p://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

or the "legal code" version
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/legal
code

That should do it.

As an alternative, you could put either of those licenses
on a separate page on your own website, and then include
URL's to the license at your site.

http://www.myurl.com
/cc_by_nc_nd

or something like that. The advantage of that is that
you can require that URL as part of your attribution
clause, if you'd like to do that.

I use that approach on some of my works and
they contain a URL to my website like this:
http://www.gregbond.co
m/cc/by/


You could also include either the human readable or legal
code
versions of the license in the document itself. It isn't
required, but it is another option. If you want people to
understand the licence, and if paper copies are going to
be the standard medium, and readers can't simply
"click"
on a URL to read the license, this may help them.

It isn't required that you do that, though, and may
not make sense if you have a one-page document with
two extra pages of license information.


> that they are regularly printed out and then passed on
as printed
> documents - so this tagging is important.  What is the
'correct' (or
> commonly used) form for marking a document?  How do we
get around the
> lack of links back to the underlying cc license - is it
OK to put in
> a URL, or do we have to somehow paste the whole text
into the document?

You could put a URL to CC's website,
or you could put a URL to your website,
to the page that explains the license of the work.
Your URL could then be part of the attribution
requirement, meaning people would have to
maintain that URL.

> Second, I think I have worked out how to add meta data
to the pdf to
> indicate the copyright status (looks like we have to do
this manually
> as the XMP template is not functional in Adobe CS2 or
Acrobat Pro
> 7).  But not sure if this is all we need to do - do we
have to add cc
> license data to the web pages that hold these
documents?  If so, do
> we do it for the site, the page, or the document?  If
for site or
> page, where do we find out what we are supposed to put?

What I did is have one page on my website
that is specific to each CC licene I'm using.
Then I state the license requirements and
list all the works that are licensed under
that particular license.

This is my page for CC-BY-NC and lists two
works under that license. As I add works to
CC-BY-NC, I add it to that page.

http://www.gregbond.co
m/cc/nc/

> Third, we are hoping to use the Joomla CMS system to
support our web
> site - does anyone know if Joomla plays nicely with CC?

Don't know Joomla. Someone else will have to answer this.

Greg
-- 
Bounty Hunters: Metaphors for Fair IP laws
http://www.gre
gbond.com/bountyhunters/
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I can answer the Joomla question. The answer is yes, Joomla
does play
nicely with CC. I recommend you download and install this
module
(http://mamb
oxchange.com/frs/?group_id=873). This module allows you
to
select a CC license and then easily place that license in a
position
within your template.

The module was originally developed for Mambo. Joomla just
recently
forked from Mambo but the two projects are still pretty much
identical.
So this module should have no problem installing.

Good luck,

Nick

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Subject: Re: [cc-community] Help - Guidance on how to apply
CC...


> We are working over our web site which contains a large
number of
> downloadable documents - things like case studies,
white papers,
> presentations etc.  We are updating much of this
material (Our
> documents are issued in pdf format) and would like it
to be issued
> under a Creative Commons
Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0
> England & Wales Licence.
>
> So far so good... but now the questions begin.
>
> First, presumably we have to mark our documents with
the cc details -
> but we have been unable to find on the cc web site any
guidance about
> what information you put on the text document itself to
indicate the
> license terms.  We know from talking to those who use
our materials

You can indicate the license where you indicate the
copyright notice.

Copyright 2006 John Smith

This work is licensed under
CreativeCommons-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives.

you might also want to include the CC thumbnail icon, such
as this:
http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights20.p
ng

and perhaps a plaintext URL to the license itself

either the "human readable" version
htt
p://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

or the "legal code" version
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/legal
code

That should do it.

As an alternative, you could put either of those licenses
on a separate page on your own website, and then include
URL's to the license at your site.

http://www.myurl.com
/cc_by_nc_nd

or something like that. The advantage of that is that
you can require that URL as part of your attribution
clause, if you'd like to do that.

I use that approach on some of my works and
they contain a URL to my website like this:
http://www.gregbond.co
m/cc/by/


You could also include either the human readable or legal
code
versions of the license in the document itself. It isn't
required, but it is another option. If you want people to
understand the licence, and if paper copies are going to
be the standard medium, and readers can't simply
"click"
on a URL to read the license, this may help them.

It isn't required that you do that, though, and may
not make sense if you have a one-page document with
two extra pages of license information.


> that they are regularly printed out and then passed on
as printed
> documents - so this tagging is important.  What is the
'correct' (or
> commonly used) form for marking a document?  How do we
get around the
> lack of links back to the underlying cc license - is it
OK to put in
> a URL, or do we have to somehow paste the whole text
into the
document?

You could put a URL to CC's website,
or you could put a URL to your website,
to the page that explains the license of the work.
Your URL could then be part of the attribution
requirement, meaning people would have to
maintain that URL.

> Second, I think I have worked out how to add meta data
to the pdf to
> indicate the copyright status (looks like we have to do
this manually
> as the XMP template is not functional in Adobe CS2 or
Acrobat Pro
> 7).  But not sure if this is all we need to do - do we
have to add cc
> license data to the web pages that hold these
documents?  If so, do
> we do it for the site, the page, or the document?  If
for site or
> page, where do we find out what we are supposed to put?

What I did is have one page on my website
that is specific to each CC licene I'm using.
Then I state the license requirements and
list all the works that are licensed under
that particular license.

This is my page for CC-BY-NC and lists two
works under that license. As I add works to
CC-BY-NC, I add it to that page.

http://www.gregbond.co
m/cc/nc/

> Third, we are hoping to use the Joomla CMS system to
support our web
> site - does anyone know if Joomla plays nicely with CC?

Don't know Joomla. Someone else will have to answer this.

Greg
-- 
Bounty Hunters: Metaphors for Fair IP laws
http://www.gre
gbond.com/bountyhunters/
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Greg bond wrote:
>  and perhaps a plaintext URL to the license itself
>
>  either the "human readable" version
>  htt
p://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/

I would recommend this as best practice, since it is the
mode suggest by CC documentation.

>  or the "legal code" version
>  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.5/legal
code

In any case, each page links to the other.

Cheers,
Terry

-- 
Terry Hancock (hancockAnansiSpaceworks.com)
Anansi Spaceworks http://www.AnansiSpac
eworks.com

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